tyrael@devel-tyrael:~/c$ php -f fatal.php
PHP Fatal error:  Call to a member function bar() on a non-object in
/home/tyrael/c/fatal.php on line 9
PHP Stack trace:
PHP   1. {main}() /home/tyrael/c/fatal.php:0
Houston we have a problem: Array
(
    [type] => 1
    [message] => Call to a member function bar() on a non-object
    [file] => /home/tyrael/c/fatal.php
    [line] => 9
)

as I mentioned, it works.

Tyrael

On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 4:59 PM, Hannes Landeholm <landeh...@gmail.com>wrote:

> No you can't gracefully handle all fatal errors. The shutdown function will
> be called after *some* fatal errors but not all of them. See the bug I
> reported here for more information: http://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=54195
>
> ~Hannes
>
>
> On 9 March 2011 16:12, Ferenc Kovacs <i...@tyrael.hu> wrote:
>
>> FYI you can gracefully handle every error. even the non-recoverable ones.
>> if you check my library you can test it also, I have an example file for
>> every non recoverable error (E_PARSE, E_CORE_ERROR, etc.).
>>
>> from my point of view, every userland error should be catchable from
>> userland.
>> the max execution time servers two purpose:
>> - it saves you from shooting you in the leg (will abort an infinite loop
>> for example)
>> - it could be used as a tool by the sysadmin to restrict the cpu usage in
>> a shared hosting environment.
>> the ability to execute code via register_shutdown_function after the
>> "Maximum execution time exceeded" fatal error thrown by the engine makes the
>> second point void (except if you disable the register_shutdown_function,
>> which you would do of course in a shared environment).
>>
>> so I think that it should be only used for the first problem, in which
>> case it could be catchable IMO, because it doesn't leave the engine in an
>> unstable state.
>>
>> Tyrael
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 3:53 PM, Hannes Landeholm <landeh...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> That's not a problem. Timeouts should be non-recoverable IMO as it's a
>>> serious problem and I think most PHP developers would agree with this.
>>> Making errors "recoverable" is difficult to implement, could have
>>> performance penalties and be conceptually wrong when the state is defined as
>>> "never allowed to happen".
>>>
>>> What I'm concerned about is that all problems should be able to be
>>> handled gracefully from the register_shutdown_function like showing an
>>> informative page, setting HTTP status, logging the problem, sending an error
>>> report, etc. Not all fatal errors can be caught this way, including script
>>> timeout.
>>>
>>> ~Hannes
>>>
>>>
>>> On 9 March 2011 15:39, Ferenc Kovacs <i...@tyrael.hu> wrote:
>>>
>>>> no, it only means that you cant return to the original scope and
>>>> continue the execution of your script.
>>>> as you can't throw exceptions also, because your code is running without
>>>> a stack frame.
>>>> you can check out the https://github.com/Tyrael/php-error-handler its a
>>>> little class which operates with register_shutdown_function to allow
>>>> handling non-recoverable errors before halting.
>>>> there are too many case in the php src where non-recoverable errors are
>>>> triggered for non fatal problems.
>>>> that should be changed, so open a bugreport if you think you found one,
>>>> where isn't neccessary to halt the execution.
>>>>
>>>> Tyrael
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 3:30 PM, Hannes Landeholm 
>>>> <landeh...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> You mean the shutdown function is called and 1 nanosecond later PHP
>>>>> crashes
>>>>> so you don't have time to do anything?
>>>>>
>>>>> ~Hannes
>>>>>
>>>>> On 9 March 2011 15:27, David Muir <davidkm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> > Hmm, I think I worded that poorly.
>>>>> > A function registered with register_shutdown_function does execute
>>>>> when
>>>>> > the max_execution_time is exceeded.
>>>>> > What it doesn't let you do is to recover in the same way an error
>>>>> > handler would let you.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > David
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On 09/03/11 22:56, Hannes Landeholm wrote:
>>>>> > > I second making time limit reached catchable. All non catchable
>>>>> fatal
>>>>> > errors
>>>>> > > are a problem for me. I need to handle problems gracefully to
>>>>> ensure the
>>>>> > > stability of production systems instead of PHP just killing itself
>>>>> > without
>>>>> > > warning. I just reported a similar issue:
>>>>> > > http://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=54195
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > A simple way to implement this would be to register a function that
>>>>> would
>>>>> > be
>>>>> > > called N seconds before the script would timeout.
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > register_timeout_handler(2, function() { die("PHP timed out."); });
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > It would be called just as a shutdown function - in fact I'd like
>>>>> to use
>>>>> > the
>>>>> > > same function as my shutdown function and get the error with
>>>>> > > error_get_last(). Of course set_time_limit(0) could be used in this
>>>>> > function
>>>>> > > to prevent the timeout of the timeout handler. This does not
>>>>> "prevent"
>>>>> > > timeout since set_time_limit could have been called by the script
>>>>> before
>>>>> > the
>>>>> > > timeout anyway.
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > On that note I also miss a function which returns the time the
>>>>> script can
>>>>> > > keep running for. If that calculate needs to be calculated to
>>>>> implemented
>>>>> > to
>>>>> > > implement this, why not make the value available to the PHP script?
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > ~Hannes
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > On 9 March 2011 02:30, David Muir <davidkm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > >> Although it doesn't let you recover from a timeout, you could use
>>>>> > >> register_shutdown_function to gracefully exit after a fatal error.
>>>>> > >>
>>>>> > >> register_shutdown_function(function(){
>>>>> > >>    $error = error_get_last();
>>>>> > >>    if($error && $error['type'] === E_ERROR){
>>>>> > >>        echo 'PHAIL! Oh noes, something went wrong!';
>>>>> > >>        // do whatever else you need to do before quitting
>>>>> > >>    }
>>>>> > >> });
>>>>> > >>
>>>>> > >> Cheers,
>>>>> > >> David
>>>>> > >>
>>>>> > >> On 08/03/11 22:39, Pierre Joye wrote:
>>>>> > >>> hi,
>>>>> > >>>
>>>>> > >>> is not the goal of this setting to prevent that a script runs
>>>>> longer
>>>>> > >>> than a given time? A catchable error will prevent that to happen.
>>>>> > >>>
>>>>> > >>> On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 2:05 PM, Sebastian Bergmann <
>>>>> sebast...@php.net>
>>>>> > >> wrote:
>>>>> > >>>>  Could set_time_limit() be changed in such a way that it
>>>>> triggers a
>>>>> > >>>>  catchable fatal error instead of a fatal error? Thanks!
>>>>> > >>>>
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