I'm personally a fan of errors and well defined return values. Exceptions
doesn't solve any problem unless your problem is that your code is not
enough spaghetti-ish. But I agree with "All fatal errors should be changed
to catchable fatal errors".

~Hannes


On 9 March 2011 15:18, Martin Scotta <martinsco...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Fatal error are most dumb feature in the language.
> The are lot of "blind" areas where you don't know if you will ever
> return...
>
> include "file.php";
> new  Class();
> call_func();
>
> All fatal errors should be changed to "catchable fatal errors" so
> applications will be able to recover themselves... and if they don't catch
> the error... then die.
>
> it would be nice if all errors could be changed into exceptions.
>
>  Martin Scotta
>
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 10:56 AM, Hannes Landeholm <landeh...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> I second making time limit reached catchable. All non catchable fatal
>> errors
>> are a problem for me. I need to handle problems gracefully to ensure the
>> stability of production systems instead of PHP just killing itself without
>> warning. I just reported a similar issue:
>> http://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=54195
>>
>> A simple way to implement this would be to register a function that would
>> be
>> called N seconds before the script would timeout.
>>
>> register_timeout_handler(2, function() { die("PHP timed out."); });
>>
>> It would be called just as a shutdown function - in fact I'd like to use
>> the
>> same function as my shutdown function and get the error with
>> error_get_last(). Of course set_time_limit(0) could be used in this
>> function
>> to prevent the timeout of the timeout handler. This does not "prevent"
>> timeout since set_time_limit could have been called by the script before
>> the
>> timeout anyway.
>>
>> On that note I also miss a function which returns the time the script can
>> keep running for. If that calculate needs to be calculated to implemented
>> to
>> implement this, why not make the value available to the PHP script?
>>
>> ~Hannes
>>
>> On 9 March 2011 02:30, David Muir <davidkm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Although it doesn't let you recover from a timeout, you could use
>> > register_shutdown_function to gracefully exit after a fatal error.
>> >
>> > register_shutdown_function(function(){
>> >    $error = error_get_last();
>> >    if($error && $error['type'] === E_ERROR){
>> >        echo 'PHAIL! Oh noes, something went wrong!';
>> >        // do whatever else you need to do before quitting
>> >    }
>> > });
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> > David
>> >
>> > On 08/03/11 22:39, Pierre Joye wrote:
>> > > hi,
>> > >
>> > > is not the goal of this setting to prevent that a script runs longer
>> > > than a given time? A catchable error will prevent that to happen.
>> > >
>> > > On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 2:05 PM, Sebastian Bergmann <sebast...@php.net
>> >
>> > wrote:
>> > >>  Could set_time_limit() be changed in such a way that it triggers a
>> > >>  catchable fatal error instead of a fatal error? Thanks!
>> > >>
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