On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 2:16 AM, Jochem Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> and the same is not true of parent::? besides which I doubt any same code
> would actually break if the semantics of self:: changed, much less than
> if parent:: changed at any rate.
>

The behavior of the parent:: as it relates to "existing" code is not
changing. The only change of behavior is as it relates to the usage of
static:: when parent:: is called on a method. That is why making this
decision is now. Once 5.3 is released the behavior of parent:: will be
locked in much the same way self:: was in 5.0


>
> Is this whole discussion pointless? given that you say 'static' has already
> been
> implemented ... doesn't that negate the requirement for
> forward_static_call() and
> also the need to repurpose parent::?
>

static:: has been implemented for quite some time and the reason why
forward_static_call was created and the reason why we want to change
parent:: have been discussed at some length on this list. I'm mildly
suprised you haven't seen it.

Try reading:
http://www.digitalsandwich.com/archives/65-Late-static-binding....sorta.htmlIt
gives a pretty good description of what I disagreed with in the
current
patch.  Then
http://www.ds-o.com/archives/68-Late-Static-Binding-Changes-to-parent.htmlintroduces
three patches to potentially resolve my issues. The three patches
are really standalone (save a mistake I made when creating the forwarding
patch that caused me to include forward_static_call()). forward_static_call
patch has been implemented already. While this addresses my concerns I think
it does so in a far less than optimal way. The first patch is what Etienne
is talking about implementing which I am totally in favor for. The second
patch is really is the same as the first, it just introduces a new keyword
(which I do not think is needed.)

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