Hi, I've been reading internals for a while and after reading some messages in this specific topic (Short syntax for array literals) I decided to give some userland input here as it seems it's somewhat a rare ocurrence in this list.

If I had to guess, I'd say most people don't consider themselves worthy to send input because they lack the knowledge to do so, being an userland developer and not knowing a single line of code of the PHP core (that's the reason I merely read this list instead of contributing). I feel like nothing I have to say will help in any way, insted it will only clutter the list.

Regarding this topic, I'd be happy to see this feature in the language as I feel much more comfortable writing

$var = [ 1, 2, 3 ];

than

$var = array(1, 2, 3);

While I understand the concerns about readability and how this code will look for the newcomers, I consider this syntax very natural and it doesn't break backwards compatibility as it doesn't replaces the old syntax, simply adds a new one.

I'll be contributing with my input as userland developer from now on if it seems fit.

regards
Rodrigo Saboya

Sebastian Deutsch escreveu:
Hello Lars,

for an ambitious userland developer it is not very easy to follow this list and even join the
discussions (though I think it's worth).

Maybe there should be a point where some discussions from internals should be taken to lang - better not this one, I don't want to fuel the fire again - but some discussions really should.

But this is a matter of process, especially extracting the results and save it at a place that is more accessible and persistent than the mailing list archives. This process should not imply that what's proposed there should be realised - in the end the core developers have to make the final decision. This process should be
an decision helper for all core developers who are undecided.

Sebastian

Lars Strojny schrieb:
Hi Sebastian,

Am Freitag, den 30.05.2008, 18:23 +0200 schrieb Sebastian Deutsch:
[...]
Nonetheless I feel that the userland is less represented on the internals list - do you have a proposal to hear their voice?

Well, they can subscribe, can't they?
http://www.php.net/mailing-lists.php

cu, Lars



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