Hi Ralph, Pierre, everybody, Am Samstag, den 22.03.2008, 01:23 +0100 schrieb Pierre Joye: > On Sat, Mar 22, 2008 at 12:51 AM, Ralph Schindler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Take this file: > > > > > > <?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8" ?> > > > <foo> > > > <? echo "bar"; ?> > > > </foo> > > > > > > and run it through xmllint.
That's exactly the point, thanks Ralph. It makes absolutely no sense validating XML documents containing PHP instructions *before* the instructions have been processed as the instructions may - obviously - change the state of the document (e.g. . So a much more sensible QA practice is to generate the process the template and validate it after processing (at least in the development stage). At this time, no matter which tags have been used, and only at this time, it is possible to determine whether a document can be counted valid or not. Example 1 (not valid before processing): <test> <element value="<?php echo htmlentities($foo);?>"/> </test> Example 2 (valid before processing but not after): <test> <?php echo "<element/>";?> </test> Example 3 (valid before an after processing): <test> <element><?php echo htmlentities($value);?></element> </test> I've picked three random use cases. Only one of them can be successfully validated before processing. Rasmus pointed it out before, people are using short tags, because they want to save keystrokes and increase readability. More verbose code (using temporary variables, etc. pp.) might be better in business logic but the quality of a template rises and sinks with the size of its instructions. This is why people do use Smarty ({foreach from=$array item=item} is shorter than <?php if (isset($array) and is_array($array)) { foreach ($array as $item) { ... }}) and similiar template engines. Providing the infrastructure to enable/disable short tags per runtime allows people to better define their API, in this case the API for templating as they can define "the only point where one may use short tags, are the templates". Currently, if people want short tags, and they want to use it (see Solar_View or Zend_View from the Solar resp. Zend Framework), the only way to use short tags is to globally enable them. So please, just leave the patch in, and do not use short tags, if you dislike them. cu, Lars
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