On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 01:13:33 +0200, Tijnema <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 7/12/07, Jani Taskinen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> A lot easier (and works already) is to install PHP as CGI/FastCGI
>> (one version or all of them, one can be module of course) and define the
>> required PHP version by the file suffix..
>>
>> --Jani
> 
> Hello Jani:
> 
> I know this is possible, and I believe it is possible in Apache too
> with some kind of hack?
> But this still doesn't solve a lot of problems, but will generate a
> lot more with portable code. Take a bulletin board for example, there
> are a lot of files inside a board, and when you want to install that
> on your host that has PHP5 for files with .php5, you need to rename a
> hell lot of files to .php5, AND change code inside the .php5 files to
> point to the renamed files.
Another option is to also assign the PHP version on a directory/folder
basis. That is to say; as an option to compliment, or as addition to using
the extension option (.php5).

> 
> Regards,
> 
> Tijnema
>>
>> Tijnema kirjoitti:
>> > Hello developers,
>> >
>> > The thread about dropping support for PHP4 gave me a new idea, having
>> > multiple PHP versions to be loaded by the Apache2handler SAPI.
>> >
>> > The idea:
>> > I was thinking about something like the shebang(#!) line used in
>> > bash/perl/python and even PHP scripts. But this time not for the
>> > program to be executed, but for which PHP version to load. This could
>> > be used like this:
>> > <?php // PHP4 ?>
>> > for PHP4, and so it could be
>> > <?php // PHP5 ?> or <?php // PHP6 ?>
>> > for resp. PHP5 or PHP6.
>> > This way can scripts define which PHP version they require, as it is a
>> > normal comment line, other PHP version can simply ignore the line.
>> >
>> > The implementation:
>> > The Apache2handler SAPI should be loaded first, and read the very
>> > first line of the PHP script to determine if a version is specified
>> > there. If not, the handler needs to load its default PHP version. If
>> > it is specified, it should try to load that version, and if it
>> > couldn't find or load that version, fall back to the default version
>> > and issue a warning.
>> >
>> > What needs to change:
>> > Currently, PHP is one big module for Apache, which will load a full
>> > PHP version at once. For this, we require a very small handler, that
>> > will use dlopen() to load the appropriate version and continue with
>> > the execution of the PHP script.
>> > Some kind of mini parser is also required to read the very first line
>> > of a PHP script, because that needs to be done before any PHP version
>> > is loaded. And maybe also a parser for the php.ini file, as php.ini
>> > needs an extra option for the default PHP version to be loaded, and
>> > one or more settings for configuring the different PHP versions and
>> > their path to the library.
>> >
>> > Some extra ideas, not sure if they need to be implemented:
>> > * Support for sub versions of PHP, like this:
>> > <?php // PHP4.3 ?>
>> > <?php // PHP5.2.1 ?>
>> > * Support for multiple possible PHP versions, like this:
>> > <?php // PHP4 || PHP5 ?>
>> > Where the first one is the preferred one, which can also be combined
>> > with the first one of course, like this:
>> > <?php // PHP5.2.1 || PHP5.2.0 || PHP 4.3 ?>
>> > * Support for <, > and && signs in the version, like this:
>> > <?php // PHP > 5.2 && PHP < 5.3 ?>
>> > So that any PHP version between 5.2 and 5.3 fits, but that 5.2 is the
>> > preferred one, if 5.3 should be the preferred one, it should be
>> > written like this:
>> > <?php // PHP < 5.3 && PHP > 5.2 ?>
>> > * Support for this in other handlers, like FastCGI, ISAPI, etc.
>> >
>> >
>> > It seems to be the perfect solution for shared hosting providers to
>> > me, as it will allow the user to select which PHP version he wants to
>> > use, and shared hosts can just install all three versions of PHP and
>> > use the one they need for their admin panels etc. (One of the reasons
>> > against upgrading to PHP5), and users can use another version.
>> > I don't know too much about PHP core, and nearly nothing about the
>> > apache2handler, so if it's not possible, please excuse me for wasting
>> > your time.
>> > But, if it is possible, I will definitely go deeper inside the core
>> > and SAPI code to get it working.
>> >
>> > Now, the reason I'm sending this to the list is that I need to know if
>> > *) it is possible?
>> > *) it is not yet done
>> > *) it is wanted
>> > *) it will have any negative effect on something?
>> >
>> > I'd like to hear all your comments and objections on this, and of
>> > course, if you have any question, feel free to ask.
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> >
>> > Tijnema
>> >
>>
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