Btw, I think if phar is a good way of deploying self-contained apps like
WAR and EAR then we should think of including this in the default
distro. It definitely has value. I just don't think we're quite there
yet.

Andi 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stanislav Malyshev [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 1:07 PM
> To: Marcus Boerger
> Cc: Edin Kadribasic; internals@lists.php.net
> Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Starting 5.3
> 
> > - you don't need a tool - well php - but hey you probbaly have that 
> > tool
> 
> Yes, but they can't open it by any other standard system 
> tool. I.e. you always need PHP - and of specific version - to 
> work with this file. And I don't know how you expect all 
> kinds of proven and widely used tools like mod_rewrite, 
> .htaccess, etc. to work with phar-ed application.
> 
> > - you can run phar archives out of the box - untouched
> 
> You can't however see files there, edit files, copy files, 
> etc. by any of the thousands of tools made by people to work 
> with files.
> 
> > - you can extract phar archives and run them - still untouched
> 
> To extract them, you again can use one and only one tool, 
> which might not be available on the system you want to open 
> the archive on. That's all consequences of inventing yet 
> another separate packaging format on top of dozens already in 
> existence. Java at least used existing format...
> 
> > - you can provide phar archives that do not require a phar extension
> 
> What do you mean, how? And if you can - why don't you always 
> do so? Why do you need phar extension at all?
> 
> > To your question "is phar so important that everybody needs 
> it in the 
> > main source." I think the above means it should.
> 
> Sorry, not clear to me how exactly it means so. There are a 
> lot of extensions that live in PECL and do all kinds of 
> interesting things - why phar is so special?
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