On 5/4/07, Marcus Boerger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hello Stanislav,
Friday, May 4, 2007, 10:07:13 PM, you wrote:
>> - you don't need a tool - well php - but hey you probbaly have that tool
> Yes, but they can't open it by any other standard system tool. I.e. you
> always need PHP - and of specific version -
nope, there ispear/phar - perfectly compatible and runs on any version
> to work with this file. And
> I don't know how you expect all kinds of proven and widely used tools
> like mod_rewrite, .htaccess, etc. to work with phar-ed application.
they most likely don't, it is designed for deployment and for running
includes directly.
>> - you can run phar archives out of the box - untouched
> You can't however see files there, edit files, copy files, etc. by any
> of the thousands of tools made by people to work with files.
If need be, i'll write a windows-commander plugin :-)
Just to address your issue Stanislav, I have spoken with Marcus and
I'm starting to write a little application with php-gtk to handle all
type of operations with Phar's as such as:
- Viewing the files in a phar
- Adding files to a phar
- Deleting files from a phar
- Viewing the files themselves in a phar
>> - you can extract phar archives and run them - still untouched
> To extract them, you again can use one and only one tool, which might
> not be available on the system you want to open the archive on. That's
> all consequences of inventing yet another separate packaging format on
> top of dozens already in existence. Java at least used existing format...
pear install phar - or - pecl install phar - done
oh wait the point is that pecl install doesn't work or is in 99% no option
>> - you can provide phar archives that do not require a phar extension
> What do you mean, how? And if you can - why don't you always do so? Why
> do you need phar extension at all?
slow? bigger? overhead?
>> To your question "is phar so important that everybody needs it in the
>> main source." I think the above means it should.
> Sorry, not clear to me how exactly it means so. There are a lot of
> extensions that live in PECL and do all kinds of interesting things -
> why phar is so special?
Interesting and not maintained for the most. Sometimes working on one or
the other very specific php version only. And often even without
documentation.
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> Stanislav Malyshev, Zend Products Engineer
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Best regards,
Marcus
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regards,
David
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