At 07:41 PM 6/11/2005 +0200, Derick Rethans wrote:
On Sat, 11 Jun 2005, Andi Gutmans wrote:

> Hi Wez and all,
>
> I built Beta 2 with the latest CVS which appears to have Wez's fixes. Please
> check it out and let me know if it resolves the critical problem and can be
> posted.

Very nice Andi. I asked yesterday for one or two days, then you put out
beta1 one followed by beta 2 a day later. That does not make a single
bit of sense.

It makes a lot of sense. PDO and the new Engine changes require quite a bit of exposure to be sure we can release them. On the other hand, we have Unicode work that we should merge within the next few weeks so that we can all work on it and have maintainable trees. I'll be happy to discuss this with you further in MSN later on today.

Regarding the Date stuff. You've been saying for months that it'll be ready when it's ready and that I shouldn't wait. Before I released Beta 1 you said that you'll merge the important parts after Beta 1, which IMO is OK as what really needs testing right now is PDO and ZEII. Maybe there's something I missed.

You have to understand, that we can't have the same situation we have had in the past few months where every time we talk about a beta, it requires another week. The recursion has to stop at some point and this has always been the case in the past; especially for a beta.

It's unfortunate that there was a critical bug in PDO but that was due to a misunderstanding between Wez and myself. I thought that he was talking about his recent SQLite UDF work and not a more critical bug. On a side note, I'm not even sure how critical it is, for a beta which is marked not for production use, as it probably only happens with transactional DBs where the transaction is stopped in the middle. But I'll discuss this with Wez to understand better. In any case, it's not like the world came to an end. It's fixable and we've had situations in the past where we had to follow-up with a release close to another release.

besides that, the NEWS file is still broken, it misses the changes from
5.0.4 to 5.0.5-dev.

Still broken? First time I see you pointing it out but I might have missed an email from you. I'll fix it when I also hear back from Wez and will re-roll.

Andi

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