Derick,

Thank you!  Thank you!  Thank you!

The problems with references are one of the main reasons I watch this
list.  As others have stated, with many tens of thousands of lines of
code, it is extremely painful to figure out which misplaced or missing
"&" has caused php to lose its mind.  The fact that php loses its mind
in these cases has left me with the impression that php is sort of a
second class language.  Putting the reference bugs to rest are the
most important bug fixes I can imagine.  (No, I don't think it will
be feasible for us to move to php 5 anytime soon.)

Thank you!
- Todd Ruth

On Mon, 2005-05-30 at 16:44 +0200, Derick Rethans wrote:
> On Mon, 30 May 2005, Christian Schneider wrote:
> 
> > Derick Rethans wrote:
> > > >If you decide not to fix the 4.x branch then we'd minimally need an 
> > > >easily
> > > >accessible document describing the known problems and work-arounds IMHO.
> > > 
> > > As I tried to do that in our large code base, I would say that's totally 
> > > not
> > > possible to do. There is no way you know you're doing someting wrong, as
> > > there are no warnings and go through 200k+ lines of code without missing 
> > > an
> > > instance is impossible.
> > 
> > That's a misunderstanding then. I was meaning work-arounds on the user side
> > like avoiding certain constructs.
> 
> That's what I meant too. "Our large code base" is a PHP application.
> 
> Derick
> 

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