On Sat, 15 Aug 2020 at 10:54, Michał Marcin Brzuchalski < michal.brzuchal...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Theodore, > > pt., 14 sie 2020, 22:16 użytkownik Theodore Brown <theodor...@outlook.com> > napisał: > > > On Fri, Aug 14, 2020 at 2:23 PM Derick Rethans <der...@php.net> wrote: > > > > > On Fri, 14 Aug 2020, Sara Golemon wrote: > > > > > > > > Derick and Benjamin (and Sara), are these requests reasonable? If > > > > > the RFC follows the discussion period rule and contains all the > > > > > relevant information, I will be much more confident that it is > > > > > resulting in the best long term outcome (and I think this would > > > > > speak for many others on list as well). > > > > > > > > Honestly, the current end date is fine, because the intent of the > rule > > > > is met. However, I do like that you're seeking a solution which > helps > > > > to put concerns to rest. > > > > > > > > The only part which irks me is that we have 50-some votes already > cast > > > > that would be thrown out and have to be redone, and that's on what is > > > > already the 3rd vote on this syntax. > > > > > > > > I'm vote fatigued, personally. However, we're going to have to live > > > > with this syntax forever once it's out, so we should believe that we > > > > believe in it. > > > > > > As I've said, I have no problems with *extending* the time by the week > > > and a bit that I missed. I disagree about having to stop, wipe, and > > > revote. As you said, vote fatigue. > > > > Hi Derick and Sara, > > > > I don't think it's reasonable to simply extend the period, when the > > RFC has been significantly updated to include important details that > > were missing when most people cast their vote. Otherwise the vote > > result does not reflect the contents of the RFC, and therefore cannot > > be considered valid. > > > > If vote fatigue is really the most important consideration here, > > would this RFC have been brought to vote in the first place? > > > > I don't think there's anything significant changed in the RFC. I really > doubt the vote result will change significantly. > > Currently you're the only one who wants to wipe the vote and there is no > much voices willing to follow your proposal. > > Personally I think extending the vote by additional week is fair enough. > > Cheers, > Michał Marcin Brzuchalski > > > > On the BC breaks front, I actually ended up using @[] in some code yesterday and PHP Storm already (incorrectly) flagged it as an error. [image: image.png] So maybe, inadvertently, not as bad as we think it is? ~C
