On Fri, 14 Aug 2020, Sara Golemon wrote:

> Derick was trying to be good and meet my beta3 deadline.

And I even got that date wrong by a week. Oops.

> Fortunately, I gave him that deadline (while thinking RC1) knowing 
> some kind of bullshit like this would come up and LO AND BEHOLD here 
> we are.  So the good news is that we actually have a spare two weeks.

> On Fri, Aug 14, 2020 at 7:22 AM Theodore Brown <theodor...@outlook.com>
> wrote:

> > 2. Include a ranked voting option for @: and mention its pros and 
> > cons (it is equally concise as @@ with no BC break, but is somewhat 
> > harder to type). Patch link: 
> > https://github.com/theodorejb/php-src/pull/1
>
> Glancing at beberlei's reply, I do agree that @: is coming slightly 
> out of left field.  However, we're using a STV system, so might as 
> well go wild with the options (within reason).  HOWEVER, any option 
> included is going to need the same care applied as you outline in #3 
> and #4 below.

I would like to point out that as the main premise of the RFC was that 
the chosen syntax had no ending delimiter, I would say that any new 
suggested syntax should have one before I would be willing to consider 
adding it.

> > Derick and Benjamin (and Sara), are these requests reasonable? If 
> > the RFC follows the discussion period rule and contains all the 
> > relevant information, I will be much more confident that it is 
> > resulting in the best long term outcome (and I think this would 
> > speak for many others on list as well).
>
> Honestly, the current end date is fine, because the intent of the rule 
> is met.  However, I do like that you're seeking a solution which helps 
> to put concerns to rest.
>
> The only part which irks me is that we have 50-some votes already cast 
> that would be thrown out and have to be redone, and that's on what is 
> already the 3rd vote on this syntax.
>
> I'm vote fatigued, personally.  However, we're going to have to live 
> with this syntax forever once it's out, so we should believe that we 
> believe in it.

As I've said, I have no problems with *extending* the time by the week 
and a bit that I missed. I disagree about having to stop, wipe, and 
revote. As you said, vote fatigue.

cheers,
Derick
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