On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 9:55 AM Lester Caine <les...@lsces.uk> wrote:
> On 16/06/2020 13:14, Michał Brzuchalski wrote: > > I'd like to start a discussion period for my RFC which proposes to change > > the use of "blacklist" in Opcache configuration with better > > self-descriptive terminology. > > Since there will be a higher level change to all these terms - in all > likelihood - trying to push yet another term that does not match the > current discussions elsewhere seems somewhat premature. The NEXT RFC > will be to bring this in line with the 'new' industrial standard, so is > there any point jumping the gun before the international debate has > finished? "blocklist", "banlist", and others all have appropriate > application but like "excludelist", they all imply a narrower usage area > while "blacklist" is accepted generally across all applications. > > What ever alternative to "blacklist" is adopted elsewhere is going to > cause confusion and adding to that confusion with a different > 'translation' just makes the situation worse? > > I agree with this 100%. Without offering an opinion on whether or not we should change it, I do think it makes sense that if we do change it, we at least wait until a more standard term has been decided among other developers and projects. It would also provide another justification for the change, if the change was being made to align with industry standards. I also want to point out my agreement with others that have posted about the current climate not being conducive to an honest conversation on this topic. The current climate in the US is such that often it's not enough to agree on what the end goal should be. If someone doesn't agree with how we reach that goal and why we should reach it, they are treated as if they are against achieving the goal altogether. This topic is very susceptible to those kinds of reactions. > -- > Lester Caine - G8HFL > ----------------------------- > Contact - https://lsces.uk/wiki/Contact > L.S.Caine Electronic Services - https://lsces.uk > Model Engineers Digital Workshop - https://medw.uk > Rainbow Digital Media - https://rainbowdigitalmedia.uk > > -- > PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > > -- Chase Peeler chasepee...@gmail.com
