On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 00:31:33 +0200
Andi Gutmans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I think the major issues are a few engine bugs which we are looking
> at. If you have any others then feel free to bring them up, with
> patches even better. However, it's not that we're going fast. We're
> actually crawling it's just that very few people are making an effort
> to fix the remaining critical bugs. No major PHP release has taken
> this long, and the previous ones were complete rewrites.

Note I send all I can provide to you (zeev and you) and/or the list as
well as a deep description on irc with marcus.

Two of them are well known, the static call of a method inside another
method of an instantiated object, and the $a->a++; .= += and friends.

One is more vicious, see ilia post and the mail I forward to you and
Zeev. The problem is SHUTDOWN try to call the dtor and friends of an
extension once this extension has been already unloaded => crash.

The last (most important) point is about some inconsistencies in the
get_properties internals call. The behiavors are either wrong or badly
documented. Feel free to ask more details if my mail do not suffice to
explain the problem. In summary:
foreach & reflection APIs do not rely only on these functions but seems
to access the propery hashtable directly (failed to see where sorry...).
In my usage foreach loops over the 1st property, endless. And reflection
does not work. For what I see:

- this is the expected behiavors and make the properties callback kinda
  useless or not flexible and the doc (headers at least) should be
  updated asap (as ZE2 is features freezed, developers can start to rely
  on expected behiavors, even with some bugs)

- this is a bug, and we can wait before adding too much hacks in our ext
  ;)

I sent you a mail with all references to the cvs files to reproduce
and/or see where this problem occurs. Feel free to ask more infos or
blame me if I'm not clear enough.

I apologize to do not be able to provide patches for ZE2, not I have not
tried but I miss the time to enough clue about its internal function, at
least for this part.

> Just so you are aware, there has not been one PHP release (nor major
...
> even released). It was actually worse off. Things are already running
> pretty well.

I'm aware about that, but thanks for the fish ;-). What I tried to say
is RC1 means we have bugs but the behiavors are or will be as described.
That's my main issue (for now ;-) ).

hth

pierre

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