Hi,

this is a general reply to what seems to be a theme in this thread. Here
are my observations and comments.

It seems to me that a lot of comment from php-dev people is mostly
concerned about getting control over PECL. I generally agree that
php-dev people have more to do with maintaining the code inside PECL
than the pear-dev people. However there are two parts to PEAR (which
today still includes PECL):

1) code
2) infrastructure

For 1) I think that the php-dev crowd should get really into PECL etc.
But for 2) we should work on a joint effort because it simply makes no
sense to separate the infrastructure. There is too much overlap and also
separating things just makes the user experience worse.

Side note:
1) As far as I know this infrastructure does not depend on having PECL
in side of pearcvs and in order to make code maintenance easier I think
it is very good to move it out of pearcvs.

2) I don't think it's a good idea to let there be too great a difference
in features for windows and *nix. I think we the pear-dev people have
had to deal with a lot of needless user confusion because of the rift in
functionality that was the case in windows and *nix for so long.
Therefore I would much rather like to see that we get the windows
situation (especially in regards to binary distributing) worked out
along with the *nix. Of course we can't magically make compilers appear
on the windows user machines but binary distribution should be
sufficient. So while it is true that moving things to PECL will only
gain *nix folks something and will not take away from the windows crowd
it does create a rift that will create needless confusion imho.

Regards,
Lukas


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