> On 25 Jan 2022, at 6:19 pm, Dirk Trossen 
> <dirk.trossen=40huawei....@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
> 
> All,
>  
> Thanks for the great discussion, following our side meeting at IETF 112, so 
> far.
>  
> I wanted to turn the discussion to a key question which not only arose in the 
> side meeting already but also in the discussions since, namely “what is an 
> address anyway?”.
>  

In this world of NATs it seems that we treat addresses as no more than 
temporary ephemeral session tokens and we've passed all the heavy lifting of 
service identification over to the name system. These days you and I could be 
accessing the same service yet we could b e using entirely different addresses 
to do so. Or I could be accessing the same service at different times, and 
again be using different addresses each time. I find it somewhat ironic that we 
see increasing moves to pull in IP addresses as part of the set of personal 
information in some regulatory regimes, yet what the larger network sees of end 
clients is a temporary NAT binding to a public address that may be shared by 
hundreds if not thousands of others.

And IPv6’s use of privacy addressing achieves a similar outcome in a different 
way. And QUIC’s use of the session token inside the encrypted envelope even 
makes the binding of an address to a single session fluid, as the same QUIC 
session can be address agile on the client side. 

So perhaps an address these days is just an ephemeral transport token and 
really has little more in the way of semantic intent.

Geoff


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