Thank you, Alex - have a great holiday! Fred
> -----Original Message----- > From: Int-area [mailto:int-area-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Alexandre > Petrescu > Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2021 7:03 AM > To: int-area@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [Int-area] IP parcels > > The title and abstract are great. > > About the title, just one little note. This word 'parcel' is very well > adapted and suggestive for an English speaker. I think I heard it very > well in US English, even though not sure about UK English - to they also > use 'parcel' to mean a package sent in mail? Probably yes. > > An 'IP Parcel' is a new concept, akin to an IP packet, IP datagram, or > to a TCP segment: it is also a delimited 'chunk' of data sent in the > network. It is different than an IP packet in that it is made to be > able to carry more IP packets inside. An IP tunnel also is known to > carry another IP packet which itself could carry another packet > (encapsulated tunnels); however an IP parcel would be different than an > IP tunnel in that there are less IP headers, presumably, and no trailers > at all (IP tunnel encapsulation involves trailers, IIRC). Maybe I could > understand that if I read the draft. > > The name 'parcel', to a French speaker, makes think it might be a > 'parcelle'. That 'parcelle' is a limited domain, like a part of land. > In our current discussions of 'limited domains' in the Internet, that > 'parcelle' confuses me. It is not an 'IP parcelle' limited domain, but > an 'IP parcel' packet, even though it is pronounced the same. > > Le 18/12/2021 à 02:06, Templin (US), Fred L a écrit : > > Here's one that should help with shipping, just in time for > > Christmas. Thanks to everyone for the past and future list > > exchanges. > > > > Fred > > > > -----Original Message----- From: I-D-Announce > > [mailto:i-d-announce-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of > > internet-dra...@ietf.org Sent: Friday, December 17, 2021 5:00 PM To: > > i-d-annou...@ietf.org Subject: I-D Action: > > draft-templin-intarea-parcels-00.txt > > > > > > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts > > directories. > > > > > > Title : IP Parcels Author : Fred L. Templin > > Filename : draft-templin-intarea-parcels-00.txt Pages : 8 > > Date : 2021-12-17 > > > > Abstract: IP packets (both IPv4 and IPv6) are understood to contain a > > unit of data which becomes the retransmission unit in case of loss. > > Upper layer protocols such as the Transmission Control Protocol (TCP) > > prepare data units known as "segments", with traditional arrangements > > including a single segment per packet. This document presents a new > > construct known as the "IP Parcel" which permits a single packet to > > carry multiple segments. > > It sounds interesting. > > But I wonder whether the IP parcel carries multiple TCP segments (TCP > payloads that dont have IP headers) or rather multiple IP packets (an IP > packet might carry a TCP payload)? > > Maybe it's written in the draft, I will have to look. > > > The parcel can be opened at middleboxes on the path with the included > > segments broken out into individual packets, then rejoined into one > > or more repackaged parcels to be forwarded further toward the final > > destination. Reordering of segments within parcels is unimportant; > > what matters is that the number of parcels delivered to the final > > destination should be kept to a minimum, and that loss or receipt of > > individual segments (and not parcel size) determines the > > retransmission unit. > > The _segment_ is retransmitted upon segment loss or the entire parcel is? > > Alex > > > > > > > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-templin-intarea-parcels/ > > > > There is also an htmlized version available at: > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-templin-intarea-parcels-00 > > > > > > > > > > > > Internet-Drafts are also available by rsync at > > rsync.ietf.org::internet-drafts > > > > > > _______________________________________________ I-D-Announce mailing > > list i-d-annou...@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/i-d-announce Internet-Draft > > directories: http://www.ietf.org/shadow.html or > > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf/1shadow-sites.txt > > > > _______________________________________________ Int-area mailing > > list Int-area@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/int-area > > _______________________________________________ > Int-area mailing list > Int-area@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/int-area _______________________________________________ Int-area mailing list Int-area@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/int-area
