On the origin of zero, there is also an interesting article by Frits Staal (see 
reference below), which unfortunately is available to me only in snippets. 
Staal discusses various proposed accounts, including origin from Chinese 
mathematics (through Southeast Asia), śūnya, and also the Pāṇinian grammatical 
tradition, referring to lopa and three “zero” elements in Pāṇini’s grammar – 
luk, lup, and ślu – together with the notion that knowledge of Pāṇinian grammar 
was foundational for all of the Sanskrit-language literature. According to one 
publication, whose reference is not available to me right now, Staal concluded  
"[between 1000 and 600 BCE a linguistic term] 'lopa' [was used] to refer to 
omissions, disappearances and things that are lost. It is here that the origins 
of the mathematical concept of zero seem to lie. It is a long period and with 
smudgy edges but there it is …"

The interpretation of luk, lup, ślu as zero elements may require some further 
thought. In Pāṇini’s grammar (1.1.60-63) there is a general “zeroing” process 
called lopa, in addition to the three specific “zero” elements luk, lup, ślu. 
The two differ from each other as follows: lopa does not delete the grammatical 
features associated with the zeroed element; luk, lup, and ślu do. This may 
raise the question as to which is the “real” zero element. Although luk, lup, 
ślu are named elements, they actually designate just absence or complete 
deletion. Lopa, by contrast, can be understood as introducing an element that 
has zero content but has grammatical properties like other, full elements in 
Pāṇini’s grammar. From this perspective, then, lopa might be considered to come 
closer to zero in numbers theory, where questions such as what is 0 x 1 or 1 : 
0, questions that are addressed in some of the later mathematical treatises. 
Perhaps some Pāṇiniyan scholar can through more light on this matter?

I’m not sure whether this adds to the discussion or leads to more confusion.

All the best,

Hans Henrich

The reference: Staal, Frits. 2010. On the origins of zero. Studies in the 
history of Indian mathematics, ed. by C. S. Seshadri, 38-53. New Delhi: 
Hindustan Book Agency.



On 25 Jul2022, at 07:26, Howard Resnick <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> 
wrote:

Might one say that sunyata may arise where sunya is well understood?

On Jul 25, 2022, at 4:08 AM, Harsha Dehejia via INDOLOGY 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Friends:

Thank you for the many useful responses.

While it is clear that no definite scientific evidence is forthcoming to 
suggest that the mathematical concept of sunya arose from the Mahayana concept 
of sunyata, it is difficult to dismiss that the similarity of the two words is 
accidental.

Sunya can only rise in an ethos where the concept of sunyata is well understood.

Kind regards,

Harsha
Prof. Harsha V. Dehejia

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