I missed updating my notes Garg ji as commented on Feb 21. The observation is labelled as *Ligustrum robustum* subsp. *perrottetii* (A.DC.) de Juana/ Many thanks Garg ji and Muthu. Regards. Finesh
On Fri, Mar 20, 2026 at 3:46 PM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > Awaiting your final decision on this. > > On Tue, 10 Mar 2026 at 12:37, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Which species do you think as per the following?: >> Here is the difference between the two as per Google AI search: >> *Ligustrum lucidum* (glossy privet) is a large, often invasive, Asian >> evergreen tree reaching up to 12-25m with large (6–17 cm), shiny leaves and >> prominent white flower clusters. *Ligustrum perrottetii >> <https://www.google.com/search?q=Ligustrum+perrottetii&rlz=1C1SQJL_enIN948IN948&oq=difference+between+Ligustrum+lucidum+and+Ligustrum+perrottetii+&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOdIBCjQxMzU3ajBqMTWoAgiwAgHxBcFLXQajhMuV&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&mstk=AUtExfCd0Q1ko788VYcLQtwJ4XGsAvT6fMwmVX-_jCPGcrOLKTSafFgcDonYTkSDZYEjhSsN1eBKOPG9NlFGkFUJ0sCxSkMi0wcxMHcM2rQ8lo4LBqVHI0GG7hWjQBOt1mmobPRgxxTj_0YmvouBALA5NO0Y9Ox-0gopcHV_CHt7e3BbfO8&csui=3&ved=2ahUKEwjS5cO74ZSTAxVW3TgGHYzNJzUQgK4QegQIARAC>* >> (Nilgiri >> privet), a native to India, is a much smaller tree (up to 5m) with smaller >> (1.5–5 cm), duller leaves. >> [image: eFlora of India]eFlora of India +3 >> Key Differences: >> >> - Size and Habit: *L. lucidum* is a large tree or shrub (up to 25m), >> while *L. perrottetii* is a small tree, usually up to 5m. >> - Leaves: *L. lucidum* has larger (6–17 cm), glossy, dark green >> leaves. *L. perrottetii* has smaller (1.5–5 cm), elliptic leaves. >> - Branchlets: *L. perrottetii* has young branchlets that are minutely >> velvety and warty. >> - Origin: *L. lucidum* is native to China, whereas *L. perrottetii* is >> native to India, particularly the Western Ghats. >> - Ecological Role: *L. lucidum* is known as a highly invasive weed in >> many regions, while *L. perrottetii* is a local native species. >> [image: eFlora of India]eFlora of India +4 >> >> >> >> On Sat, 21 Feb 2026 at 16:29, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> About being cultivated species, it is considered as an invasive species >>> in the Nilgiris. >>> Here is the response to my question in Google's search ... >>> https://share.google/aimode/Rt8YTkOIDurCv9br3 >>> >>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>> Yes, Ligustrum lucidum (Glossy Privet) is found in the Nilgiris, where >>> it is recognized as an invasive species. >>> >>> *Status in the Nilgiris* >>> >>> - *Invasive Presence*: While often introduced as an ornamental tree, >>> it has naturalized and is now invading natural areas within the Nilgiri >>> Biosphere Reserve. >>> - *Ecological Impact*: It is known to spread rapidly, forming a >>> dense canopy that prevents the growth of indigenous grasses and trees, >>> which reduces the food base for local herbivores like gaur and deer. >>> - *Identification*: It is frequently compared with the Nilgiri >>> Privet (*Ligustrum perrottetii*), a smaller native species. *L. >>> lucidum* is distinguished by its larger (8–17 cm), glossier leaves. >>> - *Wider Context*: It is part of a broader group of invasive >>> "exotics" in the region—alongside *Lantana camara*, *Senna >>> spectabilis*, and *Eucalyptus* — that the Tamil Nadu Forest >>> Department and local organizations are actively working to manage. >>> >>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>> >>> Regards. >>> Dinesh >>> >>> On Sat, Feb 21, 2026 at 4:19 PM Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> OK, Garg ji, many thanks. I will revise my notes. >>>> Regards. >>>> Dinesh >>>> >>>> On Sat, Feb 21, 2026 at 3:17 PM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I think it is *Ligustrum perrottetii *only as per >>>>> https://efloraofindia.com/efi/ligustrum-perrottetii/ >>>>> >>>>> https://indiaflora-ces.iisc.ac.in/FloraPeninsular/herbsheet.php?id=6461&cat=7 >>>>> and your earlier post at 'FOR VALIDATION :: ¿ Ligustrum robustum >>>>> subsp. perrottetii (A.DC.) de Juana ? :: The Nilgiris :: Jan 28, 2026 · >>>>> 9:33 AM IST' >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, 9 Feb 2026 at 19:38, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Dear Muthu, >>>>>> I find the Chinese privet (*Ligustrum lucidum*) as the better >>>>>> candidate, because the leaves of the posted plant are larger (8–17 cm) >>>>>> and >>>>>> very glossy compared to the relatively quite smaller (1.5–5 cm), >>>>>> elliptic-obovate of the Nilgiri privet (*Ligustrum perrottetii*). >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards. >>>>>> Dinesh >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Feb 9, 2026 at 4:17 PM Muthu Karthick <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> looks more like *Ligustrum perrottetii *for me >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sun, Feb 8, 2026 at 10:48 AM Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> *FOR ID ::* >>>>>>>> Dicots >>>>>>>> The Nilgiris :: Jan 28, 2026 · 8:41 AM IST >>>>>>>> along Ooty - Kotagiri Highway, about 2160 m asl >>>>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>>>> [image: Dicots] >>>>>>>> <https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/337764522> >>>>>>>> [image: Dicots] >>>>>>>> <https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/337764522> >>>>>>>> [image: Dicots] >>>>>>>> <https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/337764522> >>>>>>>> Regards. >>>>>>>> Dinesh >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "eFloraofIndia" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>> To view this discussion, visit >>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CABSQqC0h-mB7ufGFTpG0n%2BeDWbLFGUCkcOpMCjJsP3MGv82bsw%40mail.gmail.com >>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CABSQqC0h-mB7ufGFTpG0n%2BeDWbLFGUCkcOpMCjJsP3MGv82bsw%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>> . >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> With regards, >>>>> J.M.Garg, >>>>> https://efloraofindia.com/ >>>>> >>>> >> >> -- >> With regards, >> J.M.Garg, >> https://efloraofindia.com/ >> > > > -- > With regards, > J.M.Garg, > https://efloraofindia.com/ > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "eFloraofIndia" group. 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