Awaiting your final decision on this.

On Tue, 10 Mar 2026 at 12:37, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:

> Which species do you think as per the following?:
> Here is the difference between the two as per Google AI search:
> *Ligustrum lucidum* (glossy privet) is a large, often invasive, Asian
> evergreen tree reaching up to 12-25m with large (6–17 cm), shiny leaves and
> prominent white flower clusters. *Ligustrum perrottetii
> <https://www.google.com/search?q=Ligustrum+perrottetii&rlz=1C1SQJL_enIN948IN948&oq=difference+between+Ligustrum+lucidum+and+Ligustrum+perrottetii+&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOdIBCjQxMzU3ajBqMTWoAgiwAgHxBcFLXQajhMuV&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&mstk=AUtExfCd0Q1ko788VYcLQtwJ4XGsAvT6fMwmVX-_jCPGcrOLKTSafFgcDonYTkSDZYEjhSsN1eBKOPG9NlFGkFUJ0sCxSkMi0wcxMHcM2rQ8lo4LBqVHI0GG7hWjQBOt1mmobPRgxxTj_0YmvouBALA5NO0Y9Ox-0gopcHV_CHt7e3BbfO8&csui=3&ved=2ahUKEwjS5cO74ZSTAxVW3TgGHYzNJzUQgK4QegQIARAC>*
>  (Nilgiri
> privet), a native to India, is a much smaller tree (up to 5m) with smaller
> (1.5–5 cm), duller leaves.
> [image: eFlora of India]eFlora of India +3
> Key Differences:
>
>    - Size and Habit: *L. lucidum* is a large tree or shrub (up to 25m),
>    while *L. perrottetii* is a small tree, usually up to 5m.
>    - Leaves: *L. lucidum* has larger (6–17 cm), glossy, dark green
>    leaves. *L. perrottetii* has smaller (1.5–5 cm), elliptic leaves.
>    - Branchlets: *L. perrottetii* has young branchlets that are minutely
>    velvety and warty.
>    - Origin: *L. lucidum* is native to China, whereas *L. perrottetii* is
>    native to India, particularly the Western Ghats.
>    - Ecological Role: *L. lucidum* is known as a highly invasive weed in
>    many regions, while *L. perrottetii* is a local native species.
>    [image: eFlora of India]eFlora of India +4
>
>
>
> On Sat, 21 Feb 2026 at 16:29, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> About being cultivated species, it is considered as an invasive species
>> in the Nilgiris.
>> Here is the response to my question in Google's search ...
>> https://share.google/aimode/Rt8YTkOIDurCv9br3
>>
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> Yes, Ligustrum lucidum (Glossy Privet) is found in the Nilgiris, where it
>> is recognized as an invasive species.
>>
>> *Status in the Nilgiris*
>>
>>    - *Invasive Presence*: While often introduced as an ornamental tree,
>>    it has naturalized and is now invading natural areas within the Nilgiri
>>    Biosphere Reserve.
>>    - *Ecological Impact*: It is known to spread rapidly, forming a dense
>>    canopy that prevents the growth of indigenous grasses and trees, which
>>    reduces the food base for local herbivores like gaur and deer.
>>    - *Identification*: It is frequently compared with the Nilgiri Privet
>>    (*Ligustrum perrottetii*), a smaller native species. *L. lucidum* is
>>    distinguished by its larger (8–17 cm), glossier leaves.
>>    - *Wider Context*: It is part of a broader group of invasive
>>    "exotics" in the region—alongside *Lantana camara*, *Senna
>>    spectabilis*, and *Eucalyptus* — that the Tamil Nadu Forest
>>    Department and local organizations are actively working to manage.
>>
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>> Regards.
>> Dinesh
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 21, 2026 at 4:19 PM Dinesh Valke <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> OK, Garg ji, many thanks. I will revise my notes.
>>> Regards.
>>> Dinesh
>>>
>>> On Sat, Feb 21, 2026 at 3:17 PM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I think it is *Ligustrum perrottetii *only as per
>>>> https://efloraofindia.com/efi/ligustrum-perrottetii/
>>>>
>>>> https://indiaflora-ces.iisc.ac.in/FloraPeninsular/herbsheet.php?id=6461&cat=7
>>>> and your earlier post at 'FOR VALIDATION :: ¿ Ligustrum robustum subsp.
>>>> perrottetii (A.DC.) de Juana ? :: The Nilgiris :: Jan 28, 2026 · 9:33 AM
>>>> IST'
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, 9 Feb 2026 at 19:38, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Dear Muthu,
>>>>> I find the Chinese privet (*Ligustrum lucidum*) as the better
>>>>> candidate, because the leaves of the posted plant are larger (8–17 cm) and
>>>>> very glossy compared to the relatively quite smaller (1.5–5 cm),
>>>>> elliptic-obovate of the Nilgiri privet (*Ligustrum perrottetii*).
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards.
>>>>> Dinesh
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Feb 9, 2026 at 4:17 PM Muthu Karthick <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> looks more like *Ligustrum perrottetii *for me
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, Feb 8, 2026 at 10:48 AM Dinesh Valke <[email protected]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *FOR ID ::*
>>>>>>> Dicots
>>>>>>> The Nilgiris :: Jan 28, 2026 · 8:41 AM IST
>>>>>>> along Ooty - Kotagiri Highway, about 2160 m asl
>>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>> [image: Dicots] <https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/337764522>
>>>>>>> [image: Dicots] <https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/337764522>
>>>>>>> [image: Dicots] <https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/337764522>
>>>>>>> Regards.
>>>>>>> Dinesh
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>
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