OK, Garg ji, I will post my observations shortly. Regards. Dinesh On Sat, Jan 31, 2026 at 4:09 PM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
> If you have *Nothopegia castaneifolia* images, pl. post as we do not have > any confirmed images in efi site. > > On Mon, 12 Jan 2026 at 13:26, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Many many thanks Vijayasankar ji for helping with giving names for this >> *Nothopegia >> castaneifolia* (Roth) Ding Hou, even though they are shared. >> >> It is better to share the names of sibling species *beddomei* OR >> *colebrookeana* since they are morphologically similar in many aspects >> to *castaneifolia*. >> Thus, I will use the following names: சிகட்டை cikattai, கருந்தில்லை >> karunthillai, பேச்சேறு மரம் pecceru maram >> >> Regards. >> Dinesh >> >> >> >> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >> From: Vijay Raman <[email protected]> >> Date: Mon, Jan 12, 2026 at 6:41 AM >> Subject: Re: Tamil name for Nothopegia castaneifolia (Roth) Ding Hou >> To: Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> >> >> >> You're welcome Dinesh ji. >> >> I am okay and agree with you sharing the name Karunthillai for both >> species. >> Also, there is not much difference between N. beddomei and N. >> castaneifolia except for some subtle differences in the leaf >> characteristics. So, I think it would be okay to use the same names for >> both species, such as பேச்சேறு மரம் pecceru maram; சிகட்டை cikattai. I'm >> not comfortable using the equivalent of the Malayalam name naayi chera. >> >> On Sun, Jan 11, 2026 at 12:51 AM Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Many many thanks Vijayasankar ji. >>> >>> I am tempted to share the name "கருந்தில்லை karunthillai" of *Nothopegia >>> colebrookeana* - because in some Floras of southern states of India, >>> *Nothopegia >>> colebrookeana* and *Nothopegia racemosa* are synonymised. >>> >>> On second thoughts, the Kannada and Malayalam names (ನಾಯಿ ಚೇರ naayi >>> chera and നായ്ച്ചേര് naaycheru) literal translate to (dog + Erinocarpus >>> nimmonii), not sure what exactly it comes to mean. If a Tamil name is >>> coined on the same lines - if it looks, sounds and makes similar sense, we >>> can think of it as a good name. >>> >>> Regards. >>> Dinesh >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Jan 11, 2026 at 7:49 AM Vijay Raman <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Dear Dinesh ji, >>>> >>>> I haven't been able to find a suitable Tamil name for *Nothopegia >>>> castaneifolia*. The top-shaped fruit ("top-fruit") can be translated >>>> as பம்பரக்காய் (Bambarakkaai = top-shaped fruit), but this applies to other >>>> species in the genus as well. Translating "Chestnutleaf top-fruit" from FoI >>>> results in a long Tamil name கஷ்கொட்டையிலை பம்பரக்காய் மரம், which is not >>>> ideal in my opinion. So let's wait on this until we find a suitable, >>>> user-friendly name. >>>> >>>> Meanwhile, I found a Tamil name (in case needed) for *Nothopegia * >>>> *colebrookeana *in the literature: "Karunthillai" *கருந்தில்லை*. Ref.: >>>> Paulpriya >>>> et al. >>>> <https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Phytochemical_and_Pharmacological_As/BVw1EAAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=Karunthillai&pg=RA1-PT144&printsec=frontcover>; >>>> Wisdom Library <https://www.wisdomlib.org/definition/karunthillai>. >>>> >>>> Also, during my PhD work, I documented the Tamil name "Koil kaasaan" >>>> *கோயில் >>>> காசான்* used by Malayali Tribes in the Tiruvannamalai district of >>>> Tamil Nadu for *Nothopegia* *beddomei*. >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> Vijayasankar >>>> >>>> On Wed, Jan 7, 2026 at 3:40 AM Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Dear Vijayasankar ji, >>>>> >>>>> Please help with coining a name for *Nothopegia castaneifolia* (Roth) >>>>> Ding Hou (syn.: *Nothopegia racemosa* (Dalzell) Ramamoorthy), if >>>>> feasible. >>>>> >>>>> *Nothopegia beddomei* Gamble is known by following names: கருஞ்சக்கடை >>>>> karuncakkatai, பேச்சேறு மரம் pecceru maram; சிகட்டை cikattai >>>>> Sources: >>>>> >>>>> 1. அருங்கலைச்சொல் அகரமுதலி >>>>> >>>>> <https://archive.org/details/dli.jZY9lup2kZl6TuXGlZQdjZMdkJly.TVA_BOK_0000243/page/677/mode/2up?q=Nothopegia> >>>>> ( ஆங்கிலம் - தமிழ் ) :: DICTIONARY OF TECHNICAL TERMS ( ENGLISH - >>>>> TAMIL ) >>>>> 2. Tamil names of Botanical names >>>>> >>>>> <https://books.google.com/books?id=EIE5EAAAQBAJ&printsec=frontcover#v=onepage&q&f=false> >>>>> by Yercaud Ilango >>>>> >>>>> Perhaps a name based on any one of the above will greatly help. >>>>> >>>>> Regards. >>>>> Dinesh >>>>> >>>> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "eFloraofIndia" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To view this discussion, visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CABSQqC356mx%2BT7xhkuUV7n6W0pvCXF2mtn0tdVay0vWfK-LGyg%40mail.gmail.com >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CABSQqC356mx%2BT7xhkuUV7n6W0pvCXF2mtn0tdVay0vWfK-LGyg%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> > > > -- > With regards, > J.M.Garg, > https://efloraofindia.com/ > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "eFloraofIndia" group. 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