If you have *Nothopegia castaneifolia* images, pl. post as we do not have any confirmed images in efi site.
On Mon, 12 Jan 2026 at 13:26, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> wrote: > Many many thanks Vijayasankar ji for helping with giving names for this > *Nothopegia > castaneifolia* (Roth) Ding Hou, even though they are shared. > > It is better to share the names of sibling species *beddomei* OR > *colebrookeana* since they are morphologically similar in many aspects to > *castaneifolia*. > Thus, I will use the following names: சிகட்டை cikattai, கருந்தில்லை > karunthillai, பேச்சேறு மரம் pecceru maram > > Regards. > Dinesh > > > > ---------- Forwarded message --------- > From: Vijay Raman <[email protected]> > Date: Mon, Jan 12, 2026 at 6:41 AM > Subject: Re: Tamil name for Nothopegia castaneifolia (Roth) Ding Hou > To: Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> > > > You're welcome Dinesh ji. > > I am okay and agree with you sharing the name Karunthillai for both > species. > Also, there is not much difference between N. beddomei and N. > castaneifolia except for some subtle differences in the leaf > characteristics. So, I think it would be okay to use the same names for > both species, such as பேச்சேறு மரம் pecceru maram; சிகட்டை cikattai. I'm > not comfortable using the equivalent of the Malayalam name naayi chera. > > On Sun, Jan 11, 2026 at 12:51 AM Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Many many thanks Vijayasankar ji. >> >> I am tempted to share the name "கருந்தில்லை karunthillai" of *Nothopegia >> colebrookeana* - because in some Floras of southern states of India, >> *Nothopegia >> colebrookeana* and *Nothopegia racemosa* are synonymised. >> >> On second thoughts, the Kannada and Malayalam names (ನಾಯಿ ಚೇರ naayi chera >> and നായ്ച്ചേര് naaycheru) literal translate to (dog + Erinocarpus >> nimmonii), not sure what exactly it comes to mean. If a Tamil name is >> coined on the same lines - if it looks, sounds and makes similar sense, we >> can think of it as a good name. >> >> Regards. >> Dinesh >> >> >> On Sun, Jan 11, 2026 at 7:49 AM Vijay Raman <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Dear Dinesh ji, >>> >>> I haven't been able to find a suitable Tamil name for *Nothopegia >>> castaneifolia*. The top-shaped fruit ("top-fruit") can be translated as >>> பம்பரக்காய் (Bambarakkaai = top-shaped fruit), but this applies to other >>> species in the genus as well. Translating "Chestnutleaf top-fruit" from FoI >>> results in a long Tamil name கஷ்கொட்டையிலை பம்பரக்காய் மரம், which is not >>> ideal in my opinion. So let's wait on this until we find a suitable, >>> user-friendly name. >>> >>> Meanwhile, I found a Tamil name (in case needed) for *Nothopegia * >>> *colebrookeana *in the literature: "Karunthillai" *கருந்தில்லை*. Ref.: >>> Paulpriya >>> et al. >>> <https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Phytochemical_and_Pharmacological_As/BVw1EAAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=Karunthillai&pg=RA1-PT144&printsec=frontcover>; >>> Wisdom Library <https://www.wisdomlib.org/definition/karunthillai>. >>> >>> Also, during my PhD work, I documented the Tamil name "Koil kaasaan" *கோயில் >>> காசான்* used by Malayali Tribes in the Tiruvannamalai district of Tamil >>> Nadu for *Nothopegia* *beddomei*. >>> >>> Best, >>> Vijayasankar >>> >>> On Wed, Jan 7, 2026 at 3:40 AM Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Dear Vijayasankar ji, >>>> >>>> Please help with coining a name for *Nothopegia castaneifolia* (Roth) >>>> Ding Hou (syn.: *Nothopegia racemosa* (Dalzell) Ramamoorthy), if >>>> feasible. >>>> >>>> *Nothopegia beddomei* Gamble is known by following names: கருஞ்சக்கடை >>>> karuncakkatai, பேச்சேறு மரம் pecceru maram; சிகட்டை cikattai >>>> Sources: >>>> >>>> 1. அருங்கலைச்சொல் அகரமுதலி >>>> >>>> <https://archive.org/details/dli.jZY9lup2kZl6TuXGlZQdjZMdkJly.TVA_BOK_0000243/page/677/mode/2up?q=Nothopegia> >>>> ( ஆங்கிலம் - தமிழ் ) :: DICTIONARY OF TECHNICAL TERMS ( ENGLISH - TAMIL >>>> ) >>>> 2. Tamil names of Botanical names >>>> >>>> <https://books.google.com/books?id=EIE5EAAAQBAJ&printsec=frontcover#v=onepage&q&f=false> >>>> by Yercaud Ilango >>>> >>>> Perhaps a name based on any one of the above will greatly help. >>>> >>>> Regards. >>>> Dinesh >>>> >>> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "eFloraofIndia" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CABSQqC356mx%2BT7xhkuUV7n6W0pvCXF2mtn0tdVay0vWfK-LGyg%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CABSQqC356mx%2BT7xhkuUV7n6W0pvCXF2mtn0tdVay0vWfK-LGyg%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- With regards, J.M.Garg, https://efloraofindia.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "eFloraofIndia" group. 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