Jacob Israel wrote: > Since the day Solaris was announced to be available as FOSS, my > curiosity and eagerness sparked an everlasting flame that until now is > burning. > > I had to download the multi-giga byte installer of Solaris Express > whatever edition. But after I downloaded the very big installer for > about 36 hours, it just gave me a desperate feeling. I almost wanted > to cry, literally, because I wasn't able to install it on my DELL > laptop. There was no free Virtual Box then. So, I left using Ubuntu > because it was only my choice then because Windoze has never been an > option. > > At this time of writing, I have owned three laptops, DELL, HP > Pavillion, and a second hand Sony Vaio. I had an EEEPC too, by the > way. But I can't feel happy with those laptops if I can't install my > beloved Solaris on them. All of those laptops have some hardware > components without Solaris drivers (even from a third-party). > > Then I bought a PC. It's an ACER Aspire. In my country, the > Philippines, laptop and PC retailers doesn't allow me to try the > "Solaris Device Detection Tool" or its web-startable version. But I > still bought this Aspire PC hoping that this box as a whole is > compatible with OpenSolaris/Indiana since this box is almost build out > of AMD/nVidia products, and since I know that Sun and nVidia has a > good partnership. > > But the nVidia nForce NIC doesn't have a Solaris driver. I almost cry > again, literally. Aspire is costly and now what? > > I can still use Solaris, thanks to Virtual Box and the new CD-sized > OpenSolaris binary distribution (Indiana?). But when can I be able to > run Solaris on a real box? When? Tell me, when? I'm loosing my hope. I > abandoned the love at first sight that I developed for Ubuntu since > when I met Open Solaris. But now, maybe I should sell all my laptops > and buy the expensive Macbook Pro. At least, OS X is more Solaris like > than Vista and Linux is. > > The flame is now loosing some oxygen and now it's fading. > > Just sharing my experience. Thanks for reading. > > -- > _001101110011011100110111_ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > indiana-discuss mailing list > [email protected] > http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/indiana-discuss > We're the same in this; I've been suffering a lot longer. I personally am waiting for Indiana 2008.11 before I go at it again because over the course of 1 1/2 years since B66 or so I've tried every few releases, and since B90 it has gone downhill, the fonts and legal issues and just generally stupid things that are going on due to disorganization and Sun's marketing and legal team, just makes me wanna puke. I have a MacBook Pro myself, call me spoiled or whatever, but I still like Solaris for being Solaris, for a similar reason my SGI Octane2 still works and is still just as useful as Solaris today despite being 7 years old with an OS from 1998 that still cannot be beat in the UNIX realm.
Leopard is SUS compliant, certified, though the truth is that BSD itself could easily achieve this if the foundation had enough cash since the requirement is not being source compliant (As in a derivative) but compliant with the specification, which all UNIX systems, such as HP-UX, AIX, Solaris and BSD (The userland is BSD on OSX for the most part are now after the wars have settled in the interest of garnering application developers and hardware support. Linux chiefly investing into POSIX alone using hybrid modifications to the "old" and certified way of doing things with the rest of the draft, such as with threading model, but the fact remains that real people need ABI in the kernel and at the userland, and the constant upgrade treadmill and turnover of project code is more than just annoying, it's more incompetant than anything Sun has ever done, including before open-sourcing Netbeans and Java under GPLv2, etc. While I understand you want to run it natively, and that you aren't in a market (Either are we now) to be too picky, patience might had been a better idea, there's good experience with Acer and Lenovos amongst Sun engineers, if the latest work with power management support out of the box specifying specific units such as T61 as this is what Sun has in-house. Perhaps you should go out and look for one of those if your interest is still there with Solaris. MacBook Pros will run later versions of OpenSolaris, just consult me for help, or visit the Sun blogs. Obviously bluetooth doesn't work and there's some wizardry with partitioning, but it's not hard if you've done it and there are a few brave souls who have done it already. Most parts work on revision 3, but not 1, 2 or 4 as Broadcom and ATI components were in those. The revision 3 has Atheros 4216 pre-n (Works in b/g), NVIDIA GeForce 8600 GT, Intel Core 2 Duo T7700 (2.4GHz, 4MB L2), 160GB SATA2 (5400RPM if not CTO) and yes you can dual boot. There's always options so just be patient and do some more research if it's such a problem. James _______________________________________________ indiana-discuss mailing list [email protected] http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/indiana-discuss
