Hi Frank,
In OpenSolaris 2008.11 UI spec, it defines Firefox default font as
"Deja Vu Serif: 14pt".
I don't think we should do that.
Because IE, Safari, Firefox all use 16pt as default, so web developers
would test their pages with this setting.
If we use a smaller font, it may break the layout of some pages.
Yes, it's the fault of the web developers, they should specify the
font size to make sure it won't happen.
But the reality is not all the web developers would test their pages
with different settings.
So I think we'd better keep align with others.
Thanks,
Ginn
On Aug 12, 2008, at 4:00 PM, Frank Ludolph wrote:
Hi Jedy,
I'll reply since I was the one that suggested the sizes...
Be sure to distinguish the system font sizes (8 pt) from the font
sizes for Thunderbird and Firefox. The latter are larger. What are
you using to read emails.
I agree that the sizes sound quite small, but the default GNOME
default fonts look very, very large compared to the defaults on
Windows and Mac. The sizes shown in the UI spec provide
approximately the same appearance as those desktops. To arrive at
them I ran 2008.05 under virtualbox on Windows XP in an alternate
workspace and switched between Windows and OpenSolaris workspaces.
To test the system fonts I used preferences panels, menus, file
manager windows, etc. As a cross check I set the same sizes on a
bare metal install on a laptop.
This applies of course to roman character sets. Asian fonts may
require something else?
The same techniques were used to set the icon sizes.
BTW, my eyesight is now quite poor. I find the suggested sizes to be
legible though occasionally a size too small for my old eyes.
Frank
Jedy Wang wrote:
Hi Calum,
Are you really sure that default font size for GNOME is 8 pt? This
size
is really small and make it very hard to read mails.
Developers of firefox also think 14/12 is too small for the
browser. And
according to their feedback, most browsers use 16.
Regards,
Jedy
On Fri, 2008-08-08 at 17:41 +0100, Calum Benson wrote:
Since we didn't quite get around to implementing the UI spec for
2008.05, we've recently been tweaking it a bit for 2008.11 (and have
actually assigned people to make it happen this time...)
<http://opensolaris.org/os/community/desktop/uispecs/indiana-
uispec/>
Comments welcome... it hasn't really changed too much since what
we'd
planned for 2008.05, bar a bit more panel reshuffling (to try and
achieve a functional split of "actions and status" on top and
"windows
and workspaces" on the bottom), and some minor changes to
accommodate
upstream changes in GNOME 2.24.
Cheeri,
Calum.
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