On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 12:45 AM, Richard Elling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> MC wrote:
>>> OpenSolaris 2008.5 is downright broken as a development platform
>>>
>>
>> If someone outside this list is saying that (they are) then people here 
>> should be listening.
>>
>> I suggest a package that reconfigures the system as a development platform, 
>> and an iso that comes as a development platform by default.  Swap some of 
>> the office productivity apps for software development apps.  This is the CD 
>> I would give university students...
>>
>
> What office productivity apps?  OpenOffice is not included.
> As many of us have often stated, the goal of putting everything
> on a CD instead of a DVD forces these sorts of trade-offs.

sorry for snipping off your email but I just had a very funny vision :

Way back in the 60's there were a pile of engineers having a very
similar battle over just how much really essential stuff they could
get in the Mercury capsule for the early space program. They had to
battle over what was essential, like oxygen tanks and devices that
keep the human alive as well as navigation and telemetry devices.
Then there was the stuff that was really important. Finally there were
things like places to stow a hand held camera and should there be
carry on luggage for personal items.

If the target is to launch an open source UNIX distribution into the
market space then perhaps that battle needs to be fought all over
again. Are we going to land on the moon or just orbit the moon or
orbit the earth? What is the mission objective here?  Attract the
developer? Attract the entry level user from the Windows world that
has never seen a command prompt? We have not lost any lives. The
prototype was good. The "launch" in May was pretty okay too.  So let's
just talk a little bit about the needs and the wants and then remember
that it isn't rocket science.

Dennis Clarke

ps: I'm sorry if I sound like an old manager type .. but that is what I am.
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