On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 9:40 PM, Dennis Clarke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 9:33 AM, David Orman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I suppose I just don't see the point in arguing against doing something that >> helps people, especially if it isn't a large undertaking. >> >> There are a lot of people out there who I convince to try OSOL, and often >> they come back mentioning bugs/not being able to install due to bugs that >> have already been fixed. First impressions are everything. Hardware support >> alone is one area where a new ISO would be helpful with. >> >> Additionally, things like the broken updates that occur when going from the >> initial release to snv_91 (related to grub) if you didn't read the release >> notes are absolute deal breakers for people new to OSOL. Things like this, >> that have already been resolved, are absolute necessities in the OS (not >> updating an OS isn't an option, neither is expecting "normal" users to dig >> through release notes just to do an update.) >> [...]>> >> Then again, this is all *my* opinion. :) Take it as you will! > > Which I value and hear loud and clear. > [...]> > Is the target market the developer? The programer in a university > somewhere? That can NOT be the case because OpenSolaris ships with no > compiler and no system headers even if the compiler was included. If > the target market is supposed to be the programmer then someone forget > to give them GCC 4.x at the very *minimum*. > > So then ... who is the market ?
The repository contains GCC, headers and other sundry development related packages. So I do not quite get what is the problem with pulling down all those other than bandwidth of course in certain regions. In addition the bandwidth issue is diminishing day by day. There is a finite amount of space available on a 700MB image even after throwing in the best compression algorithm. In addition OpenSolaris packs in both 32Bit and 64Bit architectures in one image by design. So you see less software that in traditional Linux LiveCDs which are either all 32Bit or all 64Bit. However I do agree that things can be improved. How is a n00b expected to figure out that to compile a hello world on OpenSolaris he has to pull down SUNWhea apart from Gcc and friends or Studio and friends ? There has to be clusters named obviously. For eg. a cluster called "Devel-base" that will pull down all base development related packages. Regards, Moinak. > > Dennis Clarke > http://www.blastwave.org/ > _______________________________________________ > indiana-discuss mailing list > [email protected] > http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/indiana-discuss > _______________________________________________ indiana-discuss mailing list [email protected] http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/indiana-discuss
