Sandip Bhattacharya wrote:

> Here goes distro wars again. ;)
>
> On 08/12/02 23:56 +0530, Gollum thus spake:
> > this is good new man. I love debian. I had it once on my system. but then I
> > could'nt get my printer to work, neiter did i get half the things to work.
> > But Debian is beautyful in many ways. it does not have a f up kernel like
> > redhat has. And though configuration is difficult it is a great sense of
> > achivement for "me" type users just to get X server to work. Actually i
> > copied the conf file of redhat to debian to make it work. I loved it. Now I
> > hope they really do something of the installer. it really needed a makeover.
> > the old installer is damn confusing. But as they say "it's evolution
>
> Lets see,
>

This is my personal eXperience rather than influenced by anything else,
so lets' debate....


> 1. In debian you cant get half the things to work.

If they work once, they work forever, and they work rather easily in Debian
rather than in RH.
Some autoconfiguration done by RH, usually messes things up, breaks one
during tinkering with something else, same is with Mandrake,
gets most of the things work in X Mode, but the user who likes to works
in Text mode....



>
> 2. Redhat has a more f*** up kernel than debian. Care to elaborate?
>

Yeah, some things which are compiled in and disabled by using some utility
or other which it doesn't care to ask for installing during the installation procedure.

eXample is sysrq key, compiled in kernel, disabled using some (i don;t rem) utility
took me ages to figure out why it ain't working at a frnds' place.

> 3. In debian, users have to achieve getting X to work.

Who says so, all you need is to know what are you doing....
If you dont'  know, why you care doing that.


>
> 4. In debian, the installer is confusing.

This is the worst remark i have heard, Confusing is the completely the
wrong kind of word, rather the Debain Installer is Simplest of all,
1. Text based- Works will all the damned cards.
2. No hardware detection- No hangups as happens with SuSe,Caldera,
                                          on some of the machines i hve seen.
3 No Hidden Features- NO packages will be installed without letting you know
                                     Just try to install RH, Mandrake etc.... with 
min. packages
                                     How much space it takes and then try same with 
DEBIAN

Also once you get Debian working, it lasts long really long, ting tong.




>
>
> So why are you using Debian instead of Redhat?
>
> One reason that many give is apt. That cant be all. Can someone
> enlighten me?
>
> Is it just because RH is a commercial entity?
>
> Is it just
> because of that GNU concept of freedom is more important than quality?
>

Quality, Define quality, i think you have never tried Debian, need to change
your definations...

PS: everyone has right to use whatever He/She wants, every person
has his own likes and dislikes, own preferences etc....

That is GNU all about, Freeedom of mind. of choice.



>
> ;)
>
> - Sandip
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