On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 3:21 AM, SM <s...@resistor.net> wrote: > Hi David, > At 16:10 06-09-2013, David Morris wrote: > >> Seriously though, NSA makes a nice villan, but much of our hardware is >> manufactured in counties with fewer restraints than the NSA when it >> comes the right to privacy, etc. Wouldn't suprise me that my major >> brand router has sniffers from more than one country's security agency. >> > > The right to privacy is mentioned in the above. From > http://www.europarl.europa.eu/**sides/getDoc.do?type=MOTION&** > reference=B7-2013-0342&**language=EN<http://www.europarl.europa.eu/sides/getDoc.do?type=MOTION&reference=B7-2013-0342&language=EN> > > "whereas the US legal system does not ensure the protection of non-US > citizens, such as EU citizens; whereas, for instance, the protection > provided by the Fourth Amendment applies only to US citizens and not > to EU citizens or other non-US citizens;" > > There aren't any villains in all this. There is a question of whether the > company taking the data will value each of its customers equably when it > comes to privacy. It doesn't seem so. >
The other countries concerned did not take the lead in establishing a network of secret prisons where hundreds of prisoners were illegally held without charge. As the US did under President Bush. The other countries concerned did not employ torture as the US did under President Bush. Another worrying aspect of BULLRUN is that it is named after a victory for the confederate side in the US civil war. They seem to be looking to make slaves out of us. They certainly seem to be endorsing a racist cause. What should we think if the German intelligence service had a similar program codenamed AUSCHWITZ? We know from the history of Snowden that the NSA has lax internal controls. They allowed a person who wasn't even an employee access to this information. They have since chased Snowden off to Russia where Putin professes to be concerned that he does not leak any more information. Could this be because Putin has infiltrated one or more Snowdens into the NSA himself and does not want to see the intel gathered to date be compromised or because he thinks he can probably get it out of Snowden if the GRU can find the right stripper. There might be other agencies that have compromised the Internet to the same extent as the NSA. Or the others might just find it is easier to free ride of the NSA work product which Russia and China and Iran are all consuming through their own moles. -- Website: http://hallambaker.com/
