There are occasions when presentations are appropriate, but they should be the 
exception rather than the rule or default assumption.

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On Jul 31, 2013, at 1:52 PM, Abdussalam Baryun <abdussalambar...@gmail.com> 
wrote:

> IMHO, The presenters are MUST, but the time channel for presenting is the 
> problem or boring factor. I mentioned before that we need short presentations 
> 5 minutes, and more discussions.
>  
> AB
> 
> 
> On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 9:30 PM, Keith Moore <mo...@network-heretics.com> 
> wrote:
>> 
>> On Jul 30, 2013, at 7:47 PM, Bob Braden wrote:
>> 
>> > On 7/30/2013 9:35 AM, Noel Chiappa wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Easy fix: 'slide' (well, nobody uses real slides anymore :-) rationing.
>> >>
>> >> E.g. if a presenter has a 10 minute slot, maximum of 3 'slides'
>> >> (approximately; maybe less). That will force the slides to be 'discussion
>> >> frameworks', rather than 'detailed overview of the design'.
>> >>
>> >>      Noel
>> >
>> > Noel,
>> >
>> > I tried the 3 slide limit in the End2end Research Group some years ago, 
>> > and it did not work very well.
>> > Presenters just can't discipline themselves that much, no matter how hard 
>> > you beat on them.
>> 
>> Maybe the first step is to stop having "presenters".
>> 
>> Keith
> 

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