[I have significantly cut down the thread to respond to a couple points.]

On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 6:54 PM, S Moonesamy <sm+i...@elandsys.com> wrote:
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>
>  In principle, one could consider the "do we want this" and "what
>> would the criteria be" questions in either order.  In practice,
>> I think the former question is the more important and should be
>> considered first because it informs how we really feel about
>> diversity and the role of participants who don't attend a lot of
>> f2f meetings.   I also believe that, while I might be very
>> difficult to come up with a perfect definition of remote
>> participation on which we could all agree, coming up with a
>> definite that would be at least as good at discriminating
>> between actual remote participants and contributors and other
>> sorts of folks as the current 3 of 5 rule is at discriminating
>> between those who understand the IETF culture and those who
>> don't.
>>
>
> In my opinion the easier path is to focus on contributors.  The IETF
> culture angle is  controversial because it is like saying that the person
> has to adopt North America culture.


The IETF is the protector of what I'd describe as a "public good".  When I
talk about IETF culture, part of what I mean is having people understand
this and have the desire to protect, preserve, and grow it - rather than
loot it for their (or their company's) profit.  It might be viewed as
helping the "pie get larger" instead of thinking of it as zero-sum game.
 Knowing what is important to preserve and protect is also important, but
can be learned.

Alia

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