On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 11:53 AM, Margaret Wasserman <m...@lilacglade.org>wrote:

>
> Hi Stewart,
>
> On Mar 20, 2013, at 2:04 AM, Stewart Bryant <stbry...@cisco.com> wrote:
> > Age
> > Disability
> > Gender reassignment
> > Marriage and civil partnership
> > Pregnancy and maternity
> > Race
> > Religion and belief
> > Sex
> > Sexual orientation
>
> The U.S. has a similar (although not identical) list, and it may vary a
> bit state-by-state.
> >
> > If we are going to have an itemized list of diversity characteristics,
> we should not pick and choose, we should include the full list.
>
> While I certainly wouldn't suggest we start discriminating based on _any_
> of these factors, it is very difficult to measure our results in some of
> these areas, as we do not collect this information from IETF attendees, nor
> do we publish the age, disability status, gender status, marital status,
> religion or sexual orientation of our I* members.


> I am not suggesting that we start collecting or publishing this
> information, just saying that it makes it hard to tell whether our
> leadership is reasonably representative of the community in some of these
> areas.
>
>
I would say that in this case we are almost surely automatically fair:
 while one can suspect that gender or geographical origin could add a bias
(even an unwanted one), if I do not know the, say, sexual orientation of a
candidate, I cannot discriminate (even on a subconscious level) using that
information.


> Also, I think there are some area where diversity is important to the IETF
> that are not on this list, like geographic location, corporate affiliation
> and industry segment (vendor, operator, researcher, etc.).
>
> Margaret
>
>

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