On Jan 10, 2011, at 5:38 PM, Fred Baker wrote:

> 
> On Jan 10, 2011, at 5:56 AM, Marshall Eubanks wrote:
> 
>> You can go, read the poster and formulate opinions and questions 
>> independently of anyone else, including the author. If there is a time when 
>> the author is supposed to be present, you can then go back and clarify any 
>> issues. You can't establish any consensus this way, but it can be efficient 
>> at resolving issues.
> 
> I'm attaching a chart that may be useful in this discussion. Using the 
> rsync-able directory of all IETF ID's since 1992 (btw, I don't believe the 
> database before about 1996, but 14 years is still interesting data), I did a 
> brief scan of the arrival of drafts to the Internet Draft directory. The blue 
> line shows the arrivals by month; the red bar graph tries (somewhat crudely) 
> to aggregate drafts-by-IETF-meeting.
> 
> I'm envisioning the process and requirements of the poster sessions. In terms 
> of process, today if I post a -00 draft to a working group, I can generally 
> get discussion during the coming IETF meeting. What I think this suggests is 
> that instead I would show a poster at the coming meeting and get working 
> group discussion the meeting following. I'm not sure I like that implication.
> 
> I'm also thinking about the implications of 500-or-so posters. In terms of 
> simple floor space, if we presume a poster and the conversation in front of 
> it occupy a 3 meter-by 3 meter (10' X 10') space, we need 4500 square meters 
> or 50,000 square feet of floor space to park them in. Time-wise, we need to 
> assume that 1/3-to-1/2 of people who attend an IETF meeting will, instead of 
> chairing or presenting in sessions, be out standing by their posters - and 
> not wandering around looking at other posters. The mechanics look a little 
> daunting.
> 
> Personally, call me stuck-in-the-mud, but this isn't an academic conference 
> in which grad students are advertising for a professor that might be 
> interested in mentoring them or a sponsor might fund their research. This is 
> an SDO, and internet drafts are what any other SDO calls "contributions" or 
> "work in progress". I would far rather have people who ant to talk about 
> something contribute an internet draft on their topic, and talk with other 
> people about their ideas - whether on working group lists or other places. 
> For those of us that *do* participate, it seems to mostly work.

Dear Fred;

I think that you are correct in your logistics. However, I understood the 
current proposal was to use posters as an alternative to Bar Bofs, which 
would be a lot fewer in number. I would not support any plan to (say) double 
the IETF's throughput by the use of posters. 

Regards
Marshall




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