Steffen Nurpmeso wrote in <20250304221133.VfKY5pqy@steffen%sdaoden.eu>: |Steffen Nurpmeso wrote in | <20250304205330.GtAvvE5w@steffen%sdaoden.eu>: ... |Yeah, i mean, how can you actually dare (!) to follow that Chuang |Google way of doing things by saying "i have the desire to |mutilate SMTP and reduce it to a 'one SMTP message per receiver' |kind of thing" for no reason other than that your draft is |incapable to do any better? That is beyond understanding. |Or is it, and it is to satisfy Google? The same is true, the very |same. (But it is not, .. currently.) | |I do not understand actually, all the time that is, why it is not |the entire SMTP audience that screams "NO!" to any of that, from |the very start of that Google draft years ago on already. ...
It is more than that. I find it sheer unbelievable that such a dramatic change of the entire SMTP infrastructure is handled in the backstreets of some lines of a sugared, easy english reading draft. Now it comes something like "XX.X percent of all emails have only a single receiver", where X is surely 9, counting all spam messages, and so it is all no problem. I repeat for myself that i hope for times when email is easy again, and handling mailing-lists is again something that can easily be done, and efficiently. That draft of this thread is incapable to get there, in at least its current state. Period. In my opinion the updated DKIM should bolden SMTP, and use its mechanisms, for reporting aka rejection. It is a cryptographically authentifying helper for and of SMTP messages, not "THE THING, that by accident uses SMTP". So that DKIM2 does not fit that bill, and requires anything anew, it is yet another bypass, like DMARC, like ARC. And what not. If you are lucky with it, maybe you are all too intelligent, as Dave Crocker said, to achieve this. But if it is true, then, surely, the real meaning of intelligence comes into play, and with some reflection you will find that i am right. I believe you have no other option. Not that it bothers anyone. --steffen | |Der Kragenbaer, The moon bear, |der holt sich munter he cheerfully and one by one |einen nach dem anderen runter wa.ks himself off |(By Robert Gernhardt) _______________________________________________ Ietf-dkim mailing list -- ietf-dkim@ietf.org To unsubscribe send an email to ietf-dkim-le...@ietf.org
