I used TSO under OS/360's MVT release 20 in the early or mid 70's.  I remember 
a 7 character TSO userid length limit with the 'submit' command able to add an 
eighth character to allow for multiple job submissions.

/s/ Anthony L. Zak

-----Original Message-----
>From: David Spiegel <[email protected]>
>Sent: Apr 30, 2020 5:02 PM
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] Mainframe user ID length
>
>TSO used to have a limit of 7.
>
>On 2020-04-30 16:43, Mike Schwab wrote:
>> USERID length can be 8.
>>
>> TSO USED to have a limit of 8, with the SYS1.UADS emergency logon
>> adding a digit to access multiple records, and job submission adding a
>> character for the jobname.
>>
>> The 8th character was/is the length in Binary, x'01'-x'07'.  Now you
>> can specify an 8 byte TSO USERID, with the 8th character being >
>> x'07'.
>>
>> https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ibm.com%2Fsupport%2Fknowledgecenter%2FSSLTBW_2.3.0%2Fcom.ibm.zos.v2r3.e0za100%2Fch1tso_23_8char.htm&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7C57136fbee2814281b18408d7ed47603c%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637238763120777692&amp;sdata=VumiQcDjPdQQ9B1ZFQXiQHRSwCBEs%2FSKsKS9G62LpIM%3D&amp;reserved=0.
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 8:21 PM Frank Swarbrick
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> I'm asking about the user ID, not the password/pass phrase.  But thanks.
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> on behalf of 
>>> Jesse 1 Robinson <[email protected]>
>>> Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2020 2:03 PM
>>> To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
>>> Subject: Re: Mainframe user ID length
>>>
>>> RACF can now handle 'password phrase' of considerable length and/or 
>>> upper/lower case passwords. If you allow lower case, you can end up with a 
>>> mess. With traditional upper-only system option, a password typed e.g. via 
>>> TSO gets automatically translated to upper case with no user notification. 
>>> With the system option set to lower case allowed, that translation does not 
>>> occur. This means that every password entry *must* also be lower case. Some 
>>> logon environments may not allow lower case. Worse, if there is a severe 
>>> problem that requires fallback to upper only, a user with a lower case 
>>> password may not be able to logon at all.
>>>
>>> This is an all or nothing option. Allowing or disallowing lower case 
>>> affects all environments at the same time.
>>>
>>> .
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>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> On Behalf Of 
>>> Frank Swarbrick
>>> Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2020 12:46 PM
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: (External):Mainframe user ID length
>>>
>>> CAUTION EXTERNAL EMAIL
>>>
>>> Is z/OS still limited in all cases to 8 upper case characters?  I am 
>>> curious if a user that only has access to MQ might be able to have a longer 
>>> and ideally mixed case user ID.  They wouldn't have access to TSO or CICS 
>>> or IMS.
>>>
>>>

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