Linux is open source. If you buy a Linux distribution, you are legally entitled to give Linux, or any other FOSS to anybody that you want. The catch is that the distribution may include proprietary software and may be proprietary even if the individual components are not.- Even when you are permitted to redistribute a distribution as a whole, the copies would not be covered by any service bundled with the original.
In particular, RHEL and SLES are proprietary distributions whose prime attractions are the support; strip out the proprietary pieces and put together your own distribution and you get something unsupported as a unit, althogh there may be support channels for some individual components. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 ________________________________________ From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Wayne Bickerdike [wayn...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 9, 2020 9:20 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Bringing up skills learned on z/OS Hercules in interview? It's legal to run z enabled Linux on Hercules. Not sure what you would achieve over just running Linux on Wintel but interesting in that you may then have marketable skills for a real z shop. You can run mainframe Linuxes without fear of the license police. RHEL and SLES are battle-hardened supported commercial editions. Of course there are also free-of-cost mainframe Linuxes: - Fedora s390x <http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Architectures/s390x> - Debian s390 <http://secure-web.cisco.com/1DXnTJ-D_b7xpOvV6fn4HmRT17DQUYUwBane53XKcT9NU3wL4qfhsDyNApJMddF-k3RfexJc7YyyMUzlC86Ago85SO1DJSge3XWzQ3p-cUmTVggFYuF7otPhi516q5eornTBkZOtnb_sDDsTbPhApNiQfW9tEKKD04U74mnUGVjWT4rfYjB47hS-L0L0mJDbt1uFrosni6O7d8VRIsHN36ffNVZwsvWDEV-3_O0Q9DvMi6MyM9aT2tMrq10JKm91WsmNB6MixbFkDvpoa8YAM5pclkrL2U__HPhYCzqEzGtWYLB2GctjDY_3wlxSvSl05clUKMG4Lr6yN-6Qdrrp46bkAWcFX9MlWH-wYrK-rJG1JS6xWRABMHrVYbZsjypiaPZIPf1vILbtpJIlYEyybj-gOAfRwkxeIQS9ZwjugothLEAk5q_VgoRXwjPV9-FeW6RciOPekSueUSAgTxjsqpQ/http%3A%2F%2Fwww.debian.org%2FCD%2Fhttp-ftp%2F> - Gentoo <http://secure-web.cisco.com/1B8pNKu3MscInuOPGV9T-du7L9OdxE90qBI0JjNG7oA5fktv9K25lExVS-OIIeKguing2mwwLMlBGclB1PDpIgQVcSMNdoIVe9EiAp7DOOgZkvdm1YnxIbDZ0cegaBkRZSnTEzhuDdiw32j6ym_0PMKxH0Luy7tfB-klU7L51aeAEUCbQkY_fcMqZ2RCWvFOMSchEmubcQ1lXx8iZqf5JOQfYTuzRuBijK7fGCI5NgPXWN2btB8_P_SG4AuqsS_fq_83EhLHkxJ1PzqnVVJAqFITtk-3V0KhJcrF_hE3Z4KWRsoF2OH2I8C22CQzKck_JU3rk-cLs6wMiW5MLND5vYTAgMygQVAAxhZWTuawIZdHYRXzybZjc0J-4bP2CeAa7UQrGSQpWV3ahRZ1kXIJWDhOKzWnNKrbnWzzeufRH72EQqP-sR9R0uju4-lR4sI3g/http%3A%2F%2Fwww.gentoo.org%2Fmain%2Fen%2Fwhere.xml> - Centos <https://secure-web.cisco.com/1CmfSLUkK7j8Wr7uZj6cZdvewJ9tECeo_makE851BPVxC9Spq4wBOORWGcejFlDk3UWr3dlgDZiMNUA_ehTjS0C7N-DvF1dg3gPgUvnY40FSJtwhAaCotPyJV6N5jpzX8uSTOPoMcha7_0BwdTVrb-UJKIS9wP1ixCtEHkPrzbRpoUuK_woG8xUkZ2QtV0SYZejHoHTFyi00G062vwCvtWD_UetXg6cZ8GYgWxb1zOM21LlbdZhzTYI2NnB5nfTcAHtLAxQDIrOJD1MPDIpZhbX-HdmRtGzGl2JyLHy5An8ZX0_0ghr0YBC4f_RTWROKlgjl5vYp_bxPo4mUCR7S87ieNt-xd5eRStWd4RidhpBAd8RrIwXrsx7ClOPiOfGXjC_Wt_ZhXnBsLy-d_uJVwACxXc8W6qYBY6hxdMr2WQZRLRP1AoRKEpJxR1jO7z1ANBZ-i81MWOmKH-G5vyn0k0Q/https%3A%2F%2Fwww.centos.org%2F>, using RHEL instructions <https://secure-web.cisco.com/1WjYMXsm-gH1zyiKYr3cYcZKV78g6o0cir_CpE5FoT9AX5zEFnRp-mODJ8w8mFIlarIpNto_dvb3KqMSIpLvmkoXQGhoTPt4c8E33bbfs0kyzncS2OFXi4Yu2-EJaBpSRCAJmwi7bwaZp7iYk6p54ptqcwez-iGlrkF-cqMhTPycZAUwDaZ1ToqCRqEzMkGlmT-i1sN0WwPl88bPWbMZFVQ2bj4T0MAvLGuU1e7NmLGj-YuC-1GLxvc2-dbJmO89LyWUIxeJcc8_ITJhAGsYVrArare4gmhHBeQgi3LGvd8wk9qJDv4RU4hS5e_r0UrC9eRg3bqMhHIIRyQCw4lqURTz4-VousnaCyiIgDzVdtf2j-H0Yob3w9rXCbH_Pl6S2T1onFBeAJ-r6NUiMMJMoQwHeVNDOr9Xq5ZKl6-cNIfx0YcU5BX-MTim_UVl1uJo0/https%3A%2F%2Faccess.redhat.com%2Fknowledge%2Fdocs%2Fen-US%2FRed_Hat_Enterprise_Linux%2F6%2Fhtml%2FInstallation_Guide%2Fpt-install-info-s390.html> - openSUSE <http://secure-web.cisco.com/11TmSsFvOLwUrWAYa0V_XES9PaStfVlWyTIB4OmTiNDO0L1-RhU9iCzBhLhWHATokmp44HSGmLCqco7Tzbl4iz4zRi9bJx-ql_UPodG8Spjn0baUuVGuY-C8nEorPFyK5FBqJFKRSpA_0uBBMtoydEc_0lkE9uKhwFGzTJPsjih0qWNDXtRy8e4pnP1-HgIibLdxvhL08P9n8hWxt9CCGJV5RZftIJD2QUa6eF0p0JkZvMib8oRvQ-iXTmGgBYrXlXRn9vjqtqxCD1Q5w4FJg-S-AMowGxFcATvpGurv-zrf5QQ_2U-BUR5seWihtbOTrdCKD2elXPcxUOmYOm6Kuhb9b69xw2FQxZVCNkIJCn2Ps5BTHSzt6ZidAjYoswMlj4hDtEpuj7eS5z_iSn00yQFt1W6JYCUUtDnOob13Av5JXDNdmwhnRpS-pFCpe_0G-/http%3A%2F%2Fen.opensuse.org%2FSDB%3AHercules_s390_emulation%2522> On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 10:09 AM Arthur <ibmmain.10.ats...@xoxy.net> wrote: > On 9 Apr 2020 16:23:35 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main > (Message-ID:<026c01d60ec5$da038be0$8e0aa3a0$@gmail.com>) > robhbrid...@gmail.com (Bob Bridges) wrote: > > >This is new to me. I've heard of Hercules, but I never > >heard that it is considered, or that IBM would like it to > >be considered, an illegal counterfeit. Is there any > >ethical reason for that viewpoint? No, forget "ethical"; > >I guess I can make up my own mind about that (and there'll > >never be a consensus on it). Is there any ~legal~ basis > >for the assertion? > > My understanding is that Hercules is perfectly legal and > ethical. However, running an unlicensed, copyright > operating system (such as z/OS) is quite a different story. > So, as people said, running MVS 3.8 under Hercules is fine, > but any later OS is problematic. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > -- Wayne V. 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