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Don't call me shirley

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Seymour J Metz
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Shirley there is a better way to introduce new behavior in a compatible manner, 
e.g., with a new PARM option. Having two keywords that look like they should be 
synonyms but aren't is user hostile.


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Paul Gilmartin <0000000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu>
Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2020 9:48 PM
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Subject: Re: Two related alias entry address questions

On Tue, 3 Mar 2020 17:23:19 -0800, Charles Mills wrote:
>    ...
>Makes my head spin. What was IBM thinking? It is beyond me why one would want 
>to use one versus the other. I can envision a test case where they behave 
>differently, but what is the situation where you would actively want to use 
>one rather than the other? When would you want to use a command that was not 
>COPY but in your particular situation behaved just like COPY?
>
Might be history.  IBM is loath to change an earlier behavior, no matter how 
adverse, lest some programmer, somewhere, has come to depend on it.


On Tue, 3 Mar 2020 16:35:41 -0800, Charles Mills wrote:

>Got it! Not sure exactly what the key ingredient was but I suspect that the 
>problem was that I had @Gil's un-externally-named entry point:
>
>BAR DS 0D
>...
>    END BAR
>
>I changed that to
>BAR DS 0D
>    ENTRY BAR
>    END
>
If either IEBCOPY or INCLUDE -ATTR fails to propagate an entry address, even so 
bizarrely generated, IBM should take an APAR.  Of course, for compatibility 
they'd feel compelled to invent a new option and preserve the old default.

-- gil

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