There was no NASA until 1958, although there was a National Advisory Committee for Aeronautics.
But I doubt that such systems as SAGE and BUIC were written in machine language. LISP and Fortran cam later, but IPL was available in 1956. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 ________________________________________ From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> on behalf of Joe Monk <joemon...@gmail.com> Sent: Thursday, August 1, 2019 6:34 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IBM Destination z - Of Elephants and Mainframes I can pretty much guarantee that NASA wasnt writing programs in the late 1950's in machine language... FORTRAN AND LISP were 704 languages. Joe On Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 5:54 PM Seymour J Metz <sme...@gmu.edu> wrote: > Re 1957: with a SOAP II manual dated February 1957, how likely is it that > the original SOAP was 1957? > > As for COBOL, the report of the CODASYL short range committee didn't come > out until 1960, so no reasonable person can fault COBOL for not being > available until 1960. Predecessors COMTRAN, FACT and FLOW-MATIC were > available earlier. > > Was there a 702 AUTOCODER, or was 705 AUTOCODER the first? > > > -- > Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz > http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 > > ________________________________________ > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> on behalf > of Gabe Goldberg <g...@gabegold.com> > Sent: Thursday, August 1, 2019 4:44 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: IBM Destination z - Of Elephants and Mainframes > > Think back… think way back, possibly to before you were born. Think of > the reasons why SHARE was founded in 1955, and the main activities of > SHARE. Once upon a time, when electronic computing technology was still > being figured out, each new machine was so different from its > predecessors that it was necessary to rewrite a whole new set of > utilities and drivers and applications for it. Even Assembly language > wasn’t available until 1957 (and the first COBOL compiler didn’t come > out until 1960) so most of this stuff had to be manually entered in > machine language. > > > http://secure-web.cisco.com/1sRflfpe_3MG-JJUXevBrHIvSyIEW9PsN2rYTWuTGqwBOAr-zFGHfNpUHvitRCLM_aCV9TSaREWmqUw_dpuFq2vpu-8gKxXZHSZE35BOXEQXdrprFGNKVESoQ0I00X03S9o8Yusb57C1545gU063YaXNTiyDJ_qwTiOHbvrZn-lL_8pKpLLxQ7rX9tBC3UCMgjbBqZgDI64oxgsleEgXwy84H-vMG9T4Es-zfkq9MbQLpd6YDZmf3loSs5fASiqKFwuWHZRV7sD2eQ22H8pR-Ag71cg41mlrqsQybgDR1EIh3B1Io7vZRxBNQ6JiKStnS86x_3hPa3RKCzsKv2h_CAHIQXoNbB3wAkfAAbD4VaG9Eu0ZgA0VouB7UkXZ5MUtGkMp4ulNnDWH6KEQKxSy9of51-PV2ok86Ql0JEK7d4DBnKdPKgo383q0YKCQ9xLYq/http%3A%2F%2Fdestinationz.org%2FMainframe-Solution%2FTrends%2Felephants-and-mainframes > > Um, no. ACM SIGPLAN History of Programming Languages Conference 1978 > article on FORTRAN says: > > Page 166 1.3 Programming Systems in 1954 > > Most "automatic programming" systems were either assembly programs, or > subroutine-fixing programs, or, most popularly, interpretive systems to > provide floating point and indexing operations. > > --- > > That's far beyond machine language three years before article claims > anything more advanced than that was used. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN