Re 1957: with a SOAP II manual dated February 1957, how likely is it that the original SOAP was 1957?
As for COBOL, the report of the CODASYL short range committee didn't come out until 1960, so no reasonable person can fault COBOL for not being available until 1960. Predecessors COMTRAN, FACT and FLOW-MATIC were available earlier. Was there a 702 AUTOCODER, or was 705 AUTOCODER the first? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 ________________________________________ From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> on behalf of Gabe Goldberg <g...@gabegold.com> Sent: Thursday, August 1, 2019 4:44 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: IBM Destination z - Of Elephants and Mainframes Think back… think way back, possibly to before you were born. Think of the reasons why SHARE was founded in 1955, and the main activities of SHARE. Once upon a time, when electronic computing technology was still being figured out, each new machine was so different from its predecessors that it was necessary to rewrite a whole new set of utilities and drivers and applications for it. Even Assembly language wasn’t available until 1957 (and the first COBOL compiler didn’t come out until 1960) so most of this stuff had to be manually entered in machine language. http://secure-web.cisco.com/1sRflfpe_3MG-JJUXevBrHIvSyIEW9PsN2rYTWuTGqwBOAr-zFGHfNpUHvitRCLM_aCV9TSaREWmqUw_dpuFq2vpu-8gKxXZHSZE35BOXEQXdrprFGNKVESoQ0I00X03S9o8Yusb57C1545gU063YaXNTiyDJ_qwTiOHbvrZn-lL_8pKpLLxQ7rX9tBC3UCMgjbBqZgDI64oxgsleEgXwy84H-vMG9T4Es-zfkq9MbQLpd6YDZmf3loSs5fASiqKFwuWHZRV7sD2eQ22H8pR-Ag71cg41mlrqsQybgDR1EIh3B1Io7vZRxBNQ6JiKStnS86x_3hPa3RKCzsKv2h_CAHIQXoNbB3wAkfAAbD4VaG9Eu0ZgA0VouB7UkXZ5MUtGkMp4ulNnDWH6KEQKxSy9of51-PV2ok86Ql0JEK7d4DBnKdPKgo383q0YKCQ9xLYq/http%3A%2F%2Fdestinationz.org%2FMainframe-Solution%2FTrends%2Felephants-and-mainframes Um, no. ACM SIGPLAN History of Programming Languages Conference 1978 article on FORTRAN says: Page 166 1.3 Programming Systems in 1954 Most "automatic programming" systems were either assembly programs, or subroutine-fixing programs, or, most popularly, interpretive systems to provide floating point and indexing operations. --- That's far beyond machine language three years before article claims anything more advanced than that was used. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
