Bob,

Re: z14, I haven't seen one. I believe the whitepaper I referred to was more to 
do with promoting the value of High Performance for FICON (zHPF) and the info 
about SAP utilization was really background info.

Regards

Parwez Hamid​

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Parwez,

Are there z14 and/or z14 ZR1 equivalent white papers or SAP numbers as stated 
in the summary of these documents?  :-)

Bob

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Bob,

You might want to refer to this White Paper. Not specific to SAPs, but does 
mention numbers for the z13 SAP plus there is additional info about FICON I/O 
etc.

http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?mhq=Z%20System%20SAP%20performance&mhsrc=ibmsearch_a&uid=tss1wp102586
IBM System z13 I/O and High Performance FICON for System z Channel 
Performance<http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?mhq=Z%20System%20SAP%20performance&mhsrc=ibmsearch_a&uid=tss1wp102586>
IBM z13 and FICON Express16S Channel Performance Whitepaper
www-01.ibm.com

Regards

Parwez Hamid​

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I suspected that, but was asking to verify my assumption. Thanks to you, Horst 
and Parwez.

Bob

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Right; I don't see adequate instrumentation to answer the question.

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Doesn't answer your Q. However, unless you have a very I/O intensive
workload e.g. TPF system, normally there is sufficient SAP capacity for Z
servers. The other point to note is SAPs on z14 servers also support SMT
(Simultaneous
Threading) as standard..

Regards

Parwez Hamid​

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Thank you, Horst.

My colleague ran reports on them over a 60 day period for two different
CPCs. Are there any benchmarks in use that would indicate the necessity
for more (or less) SAPs?

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On z/OS, you can use SMF78.3 and the RMF IOQ report. Plus, there are some
related overview conditions.

Horst Sinram - STSM, IBM z/OS Workload and Capacity Management



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