Apparently, their heads are not in the clouds...

To develop and actually test a DR plan, great.  And finally be successful, but 
it becomes such a hassle to retest, and then justification it should just work 
because everything is "active-active", great.
So what you built for failover sits...
time passes, staff changes, a manager is short on $$$ so they stop paying for 
something, nothing is actively checking the end to end health for failover...
you have a different fast disk device, that if abruptly powered off has 
uncommitted data stuck in its cache,
someone put some rules into the network to block access, or only allow accesses 
to specific IP's,
when you need failover, it's broken, and no one or nothing knows why.

And maybe no one has checked what happens when you have "active-suddenly 
inactive".



-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> On Behalf Of 
Jesse 1 Robinson
Sent: Friday, February 08, 2019 1:05 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Wells Fargo? Well f*&%#d at the moment: Data center up in smoke, 
bank website, app down . The Register

Having a tested DR failover plan in place and actually pulling the trigger on 
it are separate issues. We once endured a day-long outage after a failed CEC 
rather than fail over to a mirrored data center. There were extenuating 
circumstances. Three senior sysprogs were in POK for z/OS ESP training. IBM was 
'on it' from the get-go, but the hanging question was how long it would take to 
get the CEC running again.

Our DR plan was always predicated on the notion of systemic catastrophe. This 
was not that. There was no damage other than the z/10 book. There's a huge cost 
to data center failover. At the end of that day, we were up and running, crisis 
over. If we had failed over, we would have set about to fail back, a prodigious 
weeks-long effort that could not have been tested in advance.

I'm no apologist for Wells--such is karma--but I understand any reticence they 
may have experienced.

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J.O.Skip Robinson
Southern California Edison Company
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-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
Of Seymour J Metz
Sent: Friday, February 08, 2019 10:25 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: (External):Re: Wells Fargo? Well f*&%#d at the moment: Data center up 
in smoke, bank website, app down . The Register

They put all of their eggs in one basket? No hot backup for data center? How 
20th Century.


--
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3

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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> on behalf of 
Mark Regan <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, February 7, 2019 5:13 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Wells Fargo? Well f*&%#d at the moment: Data center up in smoke, bank 
website, app down . The Register

Does Wells Fargo use mainframes?
https://secure-web.cisco.com/1XbdCKsnGLKgEwr85APN1jW3fG2wRa_DYqn-xDXZ9jO3awyW8jIquQnJyOyfcrmqMVniUBdat5oPC-eU7rzhVSHXMni4cgoSm21sJuWtR2jKxY5IIlBv37owgp1W83lt6KLn50ISiJGUGPbjjT2LPs_SyIIO-Th44keJWo7_qcXoCwAeaTbSzIvW903QlCMNUAmJo5FA9bCXluc_sVVbGXSeOuwpgRKunm8NlyC8zO9jltbdIKG0XPsNGkYuwixHeBWPlxN1D3qx7lhiWZbk_QD12M7CAfRZjNCUqpA9FM7vw1DSu5G1SH-c989siK6WH-_zhuKM5DLhW-8KWoHEgOXdD3WMrpO_NTiVus7SPMrf5XVZrjU8GCv0HVNgnVh9CL2EUwK17hGyu0RKEW39tgTqlb0r9iXxweNrK-44Dph_UYQic1zTj2mtmrRH8z4Fb/https%3A%2F%2Fwww.theregister.co.uk%2F2019%2F02%2F07%2Fwells_fargo_outage%2F

Regards,

Mark T. Regan, K8MTR
CTO1 USNR-Retired, 1969-1991

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