> Used to be the custom.

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On Tue, 4 Dec 2018 21:09:37 +0000, Jesse 1 Robinson wrote:

>When my home shop of that long ago the day 'converted' to SDB, we stumbled on 
>a (screwball) app that routinely created a file using--depending 
>on!--IEBGENER's practice of duplicating input DCB attributes to output, 
>complete with the boiler plate warning to that effect. The real mischief was 
>that a later program in the app read that file with hard-coded  input DCB to 
>match the original file.
>
Used to be the custom.

> ... All had gone well for years until we replaced IEBGENER with ICEGENER. 
> Boom. SDB was not a heavenly gift to that application.
>
IEBGENER switched to SDB for a while, then enough users had your
experience that they made the old behavior the default and provided
PARM=SDB.  Did ICEGENER never imitate?  Don't they claim compatibility.

I can't understand the Ref. for PARM=SDB.  It seems to tell what it doesn't
do, not what it does.  The best I find is a sentence in a table, "All are used".

-- gil




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>On Tue, 4 Dec 2018 11:41:43 -0600, Kirk Wolf wrote:
>>
>>Are there examples in CBT of code that do similar analysis of DASD
>>datasets?   Even something that does a good job at deducing
>>SPACE=(unit,(pri,sec)) is not as simple as one might think.
>>
>AVGREC adds to the chaos.
>
>If the initial allocation was performed in multiple extents, is there any way 
>to retrieve the initial request?
>
>HSM MIGRATE/RECALL can coalesce extents, further obscuring the initial request.
>
>I have used ISPF to capture the attributes of a data set; changed only the 
>DSN, then allocated.  The new data set was smaller because ISPF? Allocation? 
>applied a correction for 3380/5590 capacity ratio.
>(I understand this is optional, but our site had it turned on.)
>
>I'd like to be able to code "BLKSIZE=0,SPACE=(1,10000000000),..."
>and let allocation and SDB figure it out.
>
>They're only trying to help me.
>
>-- gil
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