> (*) Unless there's some weird embedded UNIX(TM) in some popular product(s), but (after a bit of checking) I don't think so.
You are almost certainly correct in your (not) thinking because of the licensing costs associated with UNIX. Almost by definition, popular = cheap = no UNIX license fees. Lots of embedded Linux out there. My satellite TV set-top box came with a notice (in about 6-point type) that I could have the source code if I wanted it. Charles -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Timothy Sipples Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2018 9:42 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: IBM Z and cloud Mohammad Khan wrote: >Remember when all their hardware products had become >"server"s.... IBM Z and LinuxONE systems are, most certainly, servers. Appropriate, accurate adjectives often appear in front of the word servers, such as mission-critical, enterprise, robust, scalable, and secure. >or "z/OS is UNIX" z/OS is UNIX(TM), certified by The Open Group and a trademark bearer. Linux is not UNIX, as it happens. Apple's macOS is UNIX, while iOS, tvOS, and watchOS are not. AIX is UNIX. The modern BSD family operating systems derived from "Networking Tape 2" (NetBSD, FreeBSD, OpenBSD, etc.) are not UNIX. IBM is the largest UNIX server vendor both in terms of revenue share and unit share. Apple is most probably(*) the largest UNIX vendor in terms of number of machines, because every Mac they ship is a UNIX system. So, there you go: IBM and Apple dominate the UNIX market. >or "COBOL now has object oriented features". COBOL does have object oriented features, and it has had them since IBM COBOL for MVS and VM Release 2, introduced nearly a quarter century ago in 1994, and with significant OO improvements since. >Not sure how many customers bought their hardware because >it was a "server".... Everybody. If their machines weren't/aren't servers (i.e. serving), what would they be doing instead? >or how many bought z machine for their UNIX applications. Many, converging on everybody since tons of middleware and runtimes for z/OS simply cannot operate without UNIX technologies. If you're trying to criticize marketing teams, I don't think you ought to start where and when they describe realities truthfully. Reality-based resets are worth applauding. (*) Unless there's some weird embedded UNIX(TM) in some popular product(s), but (after a bit of checking) I don't think so. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------- Timothy Sipples IT Architect Executive, Industry Solutions, IBM Z & LinuxONE, Multi-Geography E-Mail: [email protected] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
