Mouse selection exists.  Configure your mouse to send CUR SEL, which
emulates a light-pen press.  The panel needs to make the field
light-pen/CUR SEL compatible.

We did this in the early 80s, writing an in-house emulator, before
emulators were available.

OREXXMan
JCL is the buggy whip of 21st century computing.  Stabilize it.
Put Pipelines in the z/OS base.  Would you rather process data one
character at a time (Unix/C style), or one record at a time?
IBM has been looking for an HLL for program products; REXX is that language.

On Fri, Jun 22, 2018 at 5:41 PM, Frank Swarbrick <
frank.swarbr...@outlook.com> wrote:

> I've been utilizing this new "point and shoot" feature in SDSF for about a
> week now.  I like it, but its not perfect, for reasons others have
> mentioned.
>
> In this particular case it seems to me what would be ideal is if the
> feature did not require the cursor to be placed within the JOBNAME column.
> Rather, it seems to me that:
> - If the cursor is anywhere in a particular row,
> - and the NP column for that row is "empty",
> - then "pressing enter" would have the same action as if the NP column had
> '?' entered in to it.
>
> Can't think of anything that would break, but who knows.  I believe it
> would eliminate any need to turn on the ISPF "Tab to point-and-shoot
> fields" option.  Basically, if not using a mouse, you could simply
> "newline" to the NP column on the desired line (without having to worry
> about "tabable" column headers) and press enter.
>
> I have no idea if this would address the actual reason the RFE was opened.
>
> Frank
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> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> on behalf
> of Jesse 1 Robinson <jesse1.robin...@sce.com>
> Sent: Friday, June 22, 2018 11:08 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: Two new RFE's to consider supporting
>
> I voted for the PAS RFE as a user, not considering what I know--or don't
> know--about the underlying technology. A particular ISV product some time
> ago changed a screen to create exactly what Lionel is complaining about. A
> column title on a PDS member list was suddenly tabbable, 'capturing' the
> cursor on its way to the first member entry. I complained and got the
> answer that some customers wanted this behavior so they could (re)sort the
> list based on that column. My objection was that 99% of the time a(ny) user
> wants to select a member entry, not sort the list. ISV gave me some kind of
> fix.
>
> I recently started a thread here on the new default behavior of SDSF in
> z/OS 2.3. PAS, if it's useful at all, should be controllable by the user. I
> question the value of PAS if only because it interrupts the 'finger flow'
> of an application. You have to keep a wary eye peeled on the screen all the
> time to know where you're at. That might be fine for a first-time or
> occasional user, but it compromises productivity for the experienced user.
> Which most of us are.
>
> .
> .
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
> Behalf Of Seymour J Metz
> Sent: Friday, June 22, 2018 9:10 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: (External):Re: Two new RFE's to consider supporting
>
> Given that ISPF already supports point and shoot and that IBM has no
> control over 3rd party 3270 simulators and TN3270 clients, you'll need a
> strong business case. The only solution I know of within the existing 3270
> protocol is a zero-width field.
>
>
> --
> Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
> http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3
>
> ________________________________________
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu> on behalf
> of Dyck, Lionel B. (RavenTek) <lionel.d...@va.gov>
> Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2018 3:08 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu
> Subject: Two new RFE's to consider supporting
>
> Please consider supporting these RFE's that I just submitted:
>
> ISPF Point and Shoot Protected Fields
>
> https://secure-web.cisco.com/1eSaRV5UJ3V1J9lFuWduNMNEXKwsjE
> r0nnYLCdtANa5wcGIytP_p89VwxV76dUYujSzZGvsssoum5dfWf
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> QER39qJALUqHMLIzs58oysAkIsJcmb1ccODLmdnzKY2gXS9eVRancgDDeqgV
> BCArpyN5npMA64aVH_B47XdVoSdSV7DtHk5UyIdPlCkMjOI6
> 9Dv8kpj0u74ruw1jKi-4U9/https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ibm.com%2Fdeveloperworks%2Frfe%
> 2Fexecute%3Fuse_case%3DviewRfe%26CR_ID%3D121576
>
> And
>
> Improve ISPF 3.17 by allowing CD on the command line
>
> https://secure-web.cisco.com/1xtqTd4IbEpSIeq1S0zeI1IMPcAcWs
> FuqmZWHpViLukOiAtsG1u7lb2OGbEuJwHffWY-3ICATc1LstgliNG5YJwm_ehvRmlvFVRjp1_
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> 3A%2F%2Fwww.ibm.com%2Fdeveloperworks%2Frfe%2Fexecute%3Fuse_case%
> 3DviewRfe%26CR_ID%3D121575
>
>
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