I've been utilizing this new "point and shoot" feature in SDSF for about a week now. I like it, but its not perfect, for reasons others have mentioned.
In this particular case it seems to me what would be ideal is if the feature did not require the cursor to be placed within the JOBNAME column. Rather, it seems to me that: - If the cursor is anywhere in a particular row, - and the NP column for that row is "empty", - then "pressing enter" would have the same action as if the NP column had '?' entered in to it. Can't think of anything that would break, but who knows. I believe it would eliminate any need to turn on the ISPF "Tab to point-and-shoot fields" option. Basically, if not using a mouse, you could simply "newline" to the NP column on the desired line (without having to worry about "tabable" column headers) and press enter. I have no idea if this would address the actual reason the RFE was opened. Frank ________________________________ From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> on behalf of Jesse 1 Robinson <jesse1.robin...@sce.com> Sent: Friday, June 22, 2018 11:08 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Two new RFE's to consider supporting I voted for the PAS RFE as a user, not considering what I know--or don't know--about the underlying technology. A particular ISV product some time ago changed a screen to create exactly what Lionel is complaining about. A column title on a PDS member list was suddenly tabbable, 'capturing' the cursor on its way to the first member entry. I complained and got the answer that some customers wanted this behavior so they could (re)sort the list based on that column. My objection was that 99% of the time a(ny) user wants to select a member entry, not sort the list. ISV gave me some kind of fix. I recently started a thread here on the new default behavior of SDSF in z/OS 2.3. PAS, if it's useful at all, should be controllable by the user. I question the value of PAS if only because it interrupts the 'finger flow' of an application. You have to keep a wary eye peeled on the screen all the time to know where you're at. That might be fine for a first-time or occasional user, but it compromises productivity for the experienced user. Which most of us are. . . J.O.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 323-715-0595 Mobile 626-543-6132 Office ⇐=== NEW robin...@sce.com -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Seymour J Metz Sent: Friday, June 22, 2018 9:10 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: (External):Re: Two new RFE's to consider supporting Given that ISPF already supports point and shoot and that IBM has no control over 3rd party 3270 simulators and TN3270 clients, you'll need a strong business case. The only solution I know of within the existing 3270 protocol is a zero-width field. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 ________________________________________ From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu> on behalf of Dyck, Lionel B. (RavenTek) <lionel.d...@va.gov> Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2018 3:08 PM To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu Subject: Two new RFE's to consider supporting Please consider supporting these RFE's that I just submitted: ISPF Point and Shoot Protected Fields https://secure-web.cisco.com/1eSaRV5UJ3V1J9lFuWduNMNEXKwsjEr0nnYLCdtANa5wcGIytP_p89VwxV76dUYujSzZGvsssoum5dfWf031TCGUtebzzpwdlkSgZJnaqbpOkVLJas5jtys5H1gU8JRFNOD2vMXd3U8abHHyUJFosa64XBfNSgGc5MvffGa_1ZfKyWEpmQAA3kv0sNVrx-whBQbW89l_3pWtg15_7MBLqVtWvke6na3t-Tk6vOswu28yUE4IUe2koNEA8oyONANQER39qJALUqHMLIzs58oysAkIsJcmb1ccODLmdnzKY2gXS9eVRancgDDeqgVBCArpyN5npMA64aVH_B47XdVoSdSV7DtHk5UyIdPlCkMjOI69Dv8kpj0u74ruw1jKi-4U9/https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ibm.com%2Fdeveloperworks%2Frfe%2Fexecute%3Fuse_case%3DviewRfe%26CR_ID%3D121576 And Improve ISPF 3.17 by allowing CD on the command line https://secure-web.cisco.com/1xtqTd4IbEpSIeq1S0zeI1IMPcAcWsFuqmZWHpViLukOiAtsG1u7lb2OGbEuJwHffWY-3ICATc1LstgliNG5YJwm_ehvRmlvFVRjp1_ELkgd2iFLph4vBOuNp9wHVtL3RKyceFMRN7yre-njqs_Cp5ejI7zvJhlJ9KQNaY5Uf-3lQTeIfIugyV8IIgCZR8TlawkDi4qZiF7y_zgKvvN0SxF_Xz1oJoLxm35MAsfUGMTUGsbJx4aT3jrANFbnl0DsO_SX5FTaYfjwWwsARjRQPgzrQ3kmz-_4QLdHofUx_xy541tlAJhhYLLpLZ-xJoNkzcA5aQ--sPgP_7WkfCHn9hOLgHD5yzj8m5z4KMY5w5M78ygtsyAV9psRghqfpCT1w/https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ibm.com%2Fdeveloperworks%2Frfe%2Fexecute%3Fuse_case%3DviewRfe%26CR_ID%3D121575 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lionel B. Dyck (Contractor) <sdg>< Mainframe Systems Programmer - RavenTek Solution Partners ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
