Plus some Wylbur :)

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> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]]
> On Behalf Of Seymour J Metz
> Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2018 11:56 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: z/OS "interactive computing" - AKA TSO/ISPF or UNIX shell
> 
> The ISPF WSA has worked well for me, except that the GUI doesn't support
> block or multi-line copies. As for local SPF, the only decent one that I saw 
> was
> Tritus SPF, and it's no longer available. If you can get the relevant bugs 
> fixed
> then The Hessling Editor would be a good alternative, although it might be a
> culture shock if you've only used ISPF. I've always wanted an editor that
> combined the best features of ISPF/EDIT and XEDIT.
> 
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> ________________________________________
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> on behalf
> of Steve Thompson <[email protected]>
> Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2018 11:19 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: z/OS "interactive computing" - AKA TSO/ISPF or UNIX shell
> 
> Where I am working, we use TSO/ISPF. We are working toward ISPW from
> Compuware and an associated product.
> 
> I'd be tickled if I could get a client/server thing going so I could do 
> editing on
> W10 and then upload and compile/assemble. Of course I would expect/want
> an ISPF emulation product in that case because I am very much tied to
> excluding lines, columnar oriented editing, etc. which the IDEs currently
> being used (so far as I know today) are oblivious to.
> 
> If WYLBUR/AT would work, I'd be tickled pink, but it had a Y2K problem with
> Windows!! And Addlerspare and Associates no longer support it (I don't even
> know if they are in biz any more).
> 
> Regards,
> Steve Thompson
> 
> On 03/15/2018 09:25 AM, John McKown wrote:
> > As many may know, where I work now is really behind the times. So I
> > thought that I'd ask here about what is the current methodology for
> > program development. What I'm really getting at is whether people
> > continue to use TSO ISPF or have most shops gone to using the Eclipse
> > based "IBM Explorer for z/OS" (or is it "Rational Developer"? - what
> > about the irrational developers, what do they use? :-})
> >
> > Personally, I don't like TSO very much. I like ISPF fairly well. I
> > wish that ISPF would could be run from a z/OS UNIX shell (the way TSO
> > ISPF runs under a "TSO shell").
> >
> > Any good YouTube videos that I could watch? Of course, the problem
> > with that is that I'm not allowed to "waste bandwidth" watching videos
> > here at work, so I end up watching them at home (when I do) instead of
> > "Father Brown" episodes.
> >
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