I would certainly want an editor to have reasonable handling of text direction, 
with the user firmly in control of how the editor behaves.

I refer to WYSIWYG as what you see is all you get (WYSIAYG), and hate it. It 
gives no clue as to what will happen if you make changes, while with a markup 
language everything is clear.


--
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3

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Subject: Re: Transferring hebrew data from Db2 Z/OS to PC

On 2018-01-08, at 23:17:18, ITschak Mugzach wrote:

> I wonder how will it solve the Hebrew reading direction issue...



On 2018-01-09, at 13:31:19, Seymour J Metz wrote:

> I doubt that it will or should. Handling text direction and mixed direction 
> text is an application issue. It helps if you're using Unicode.
>

I deem an editor such an application.  Don't you appreciate WYSIWYG?


On 2018-01-09, at 13:53:29, Seymour J Metz wrote:

> What is "the z/OS practice"?  If it's anything but storing characters in 
> logical sequence rather than visual sequence then that's bad.
>
See Gadi, below.  According to that, it's bad.

> Why "עיברית קשה שפה"? It's certainly more regular than English. Although that 
> word order looks strange.
>
I don't know Hebrew.  But I can use Google Translate.  But that doesn't
help if I don't know whether adjectives precede or follow nouns.  Is
it like Russian, eliding auxiliary verbs?  What would be a fluent rendition?
Google Translate tells me "עברית היא שפה קשה" (when I do some guessing;
with cutting and pasting I get from Google, hyper-literally, "Hebrew she
language difficult".)


> On Mon, 8 Jan 2018 05:57:34 +0000, Gadi Ben-Avi wrote:
>
>> עיברית קשה שפה
>>     ...
>> On z/OS, Hebrew is usually stored visually - the first letter in a word is 
>> on the right.
>> On other platforms, including Windows, Hebrew is stored logically - the 
>> first letter is on the left, and programs reverse the data before it is 
>> displayed.

-- gil

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