> On Dec 7, 2017, at 6:20 AM, David Crayford <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> What is the alternative then? For every language to have it's own runtime and 
> be unable to interop with other languages. I don't grok a lot of things you 
> say which
> seem to be personal opinions formed decades ago. LE is the z/OS ABI. Without 
> it we wouldn't have new languages and runtimes like Java, Swift, Node.JS etc.


Continue as it was each language has its own unique subroutines. I will make 
one observation about LE and leave it there. LE *IF* it had NOT been written by 
young and inexperienced IBMers might have had a decent chance to do some good, 
the sound and inexperienced people that IBM brought in (at least when it first 
came out say through v12) regularly broke LE it seemed like every release. Its 
hard to say as I wasn’t present at any meetings but they seem to throw out a 
standard they wrote 6 months ago. I had it up to my neck with LE issues and 
they seemed to get more complicated and I got tired of answering the phone 
usually in 1 day I had opened  6 or 8 PMR’s. I remember PSF when it first came 
out it wasn’t as bad but the people on the other end were helpful, where the LE 
people had a chip on their shoulder and it was pretty hard to knock it off 
without source.They had the source and could see the issue(s) all we had was a 
dump to look at and its difficult to see the big picture with a dump, at least 
as far as I could see.

I will not repeat this rant again as I will not deal anymore with LE issues, 
but is now somebody else problem, not mine.

Ed
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