> On Jun 8, 2017, at 3:19 PM, Clark Morris <cfmpub...@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote:
> 
> [Default] On 8 Jun 2017 06:01:57 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main
> edgould1...@comcast.net (Edward Gould) wrote:
> 
>>> On Jun 7, 2017, at 7:06 PM, Phil Smith <p...@voltage.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Lionel Dyck wrote:
>>>> If I recall the CMS/TSO Pipes is effectively the same code that is 
>>>> reassembled for z/VM or z/OS. Sadly it is a product that is charged for on 
>>>> z/OS but is included in z/VM at no charge. It should, imho, be included in 
>>>> z/OS as a no charge feature and really give the REXX users a tool to be 
>>>> more productive and thus make z/OS more usable.
>>> 
>>> More than "effectively": IIRC, the same load module works in either OS. It 
>>> can tell where it is and reacts accordingly.
>>> 
>>> And yes, IBM should include it in the product; it could only help! The 
>>> resistance to making z/OS more usable is going to be its downfall, I fear.
>>> 
>>> And no, the web-based stuff isn't the answer-that makes it easier to 
>>> administer, but doesn't help you get real work done.
>> 
>> Phil:
>> 
>> TSO is dead, IBM wouldn’t offer a new product because it used TSO.
> What is the IBM replacement and what is the migration path?  I have no
> problem with terminating TSO but the functions it provides are still
> needed.
> 
> Clark Morris
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Good question. One that has been asked many times. I have the impression IBM is 
being mysterious here. We are pretty sure that there is no development going on 
for current TSO and IBM is tight lipped on any possible successor (if any).
About 25 years ago an IBMer at Guide we were talking at a restaurant and with a 
few drinks I got out of him that IBM has basically lost track of the innards of 
TSO and really have no idea on how to fix it. He hinted that there maybe a 
replacement on the horizon but wouldn’t say much more than that. I did not have 
the expense account that would buy unlimited booze and I thought it would 
certainly happen soon. I was wrong. Not a peep from IBM of course I stopped 
going all the often to SHARE and with the personnel trimming at IBM, I would 
venture a guess that it is low on IBM’s list of thing to do.

Ed
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