Thanks for the research...
-----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jousma, David Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 10:11 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: SYS1.BRODCAST Hmmmmm....now you made me dig. While the commands worked, and we converted to user logs long ago, I never actually deleted sys1.brodcast. Now, I see master has it allocated even though there is no SYSLBC dd in MSTJCL00. I guess more research is needed. I just browsed sys1.brodcast, and see the message I just sent below. 16174 10:21:25.22 RR008058 00000210 SEND 'A MESSAGE TO ALL TSO USERS',SAVE 16174 10:21:25.24 RR008058 00000000 IKJ578I BROADCAST MSGNO =0001 And then when I logon: TSS7000I xxxxxxx Last-Used 22 Jun 16 10:21 System=TOL2 Facility=TSO TSS7001I Count=08962 Mode=Fail Locktime=None Name=DAVE E JOUSMA IKJ56455I xxxxxxxx LOGON IN PROGRESS AT 10:22:37 ON JUNE 22, 2016 A MESSAGE TO ALL TSO USERS Fine manual says: To implement the use of user logs, first copy sample member IKJTSO00 from SYS1.SAMPLIB to SYS1.PARMLIB, if you have not already done so. You can create alternative members using the IKJTSOxx naming convention. In IKJTSOxx, modify the SEND PARMLIB parameter as follows: LOGNAMEuser log data set nameCHKBRODON My IKJTSO00 says: SEND /* SEND COMMAND DEFAULTS */ + OPERSEND(ON) /* */ + USERSEND(ON) /* */ + USEBROD(OFF) /* */ + SAVE(ON) /* */ + CHKBROD(OFF) /* */ + SYSPLEXSHR(ON) /* */ + USERLOGSIZE(5,1) /* */ + LOGNAME(BRODCAST) /* */ If I do a send 'message',user(myid),save the message is stored in my own brodcast dataset. If I do a send 'message',save it goes to sys1.brodcast. The book could be clearer on this. Not sure where to go next, other than PMR. _________________________________________________________________ Dave Jousma Manager Mainframe Engineering, Assistant Vice President [email protected] 1830 East Paris, Grand Rapids, MI 49546 MD RSCB2H p 616.653.8429 f 616.653.2717 -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jesse 1 Robinson Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 10:03 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: SYS1.BRODCAST So happens when you issue the following MVS command: SEND 'A message to all TSO users',SAVE . . . J.O.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 323-715-0595 Mobile 626-302-7535 Office [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jousma, David Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 6:14 AM To: [email protected] Subject: (External):Re: SYS1.BRODCAST We run without. Nothing in MSTJCLxx, just changes to IKJTSOxx to use user BROADCAST dataset. We use userid.BRODCAST >From the fine manual: >https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.1.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r1.ikjb400/conlogs.htm I don't get any messages at logon time for a missing SYS1.BRODCAST dataset either. _________________________________________________________________ Dave Jousma Manager Mainframe Engineering, Assistant Vice President [email protected] 1830 East Paris, Grand Rapids, MI 49546 MD RSCB2H p 616.653.8429 f 616.653.2717 -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jesse 1 Robinson Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2016 3:21 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: SYS1.BRODCAST You also answered a question for me: would this be a good idea in my shop? The messages about missing SYS1.BRODCAST would generate a flurry of calls to the help desk, generating a gaggle of problem tickets. For me, not the worth the cacophony. But thanks for experimenting. . . . J.O.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 323-715-0595 Mobile 626-302-7535 Office [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Staller, Allan Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2016 12:01 PM To: [email protected] Subject: (External):Re: SYS1.BRODCAST Answering my own question: Yes, you can run *WITHOUT* a SYS1.BRODCAST dataset. You will receive a couple of messages at logon time indicating SYS1.BRODCAST cannot be allocated. The logon will proceed and the user BROADCAST dataset will be handled normally. Thanks to all that responded. -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Staller, Allan Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2016 10:29 AM To: [email protected] Subject: SYS1.BRODCAST I recently converted to TSO/E user logs and IPL'ed. All is working but I still have an allocation for SYS1.BRODCAST by *MASTER*. I *DID* check MSTJCL00 and the SYSLBC DD statement is not present. The only trace I can find of SYS1.BRODCAST is in the GRSRNL list. RNLDEF RNL(EXCL) TYPE(SPECIFIC) QNAME(SYSDSN) RNAME(SYS1.BRODCAST) Q. Is anyone out there running *WITHOUT* a SYS1.BRODCAST dataset? If so, what is necessary to accomplish this? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN This e-mail transmission contains information that is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended only for the addressee(s) named above. If you receive this e-mail in error, please do not read, copy or disseminate it in any manner. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information is prohibited. 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