Hmmmmm....now you made me dig. While the commands worked, and we converted to
user logs long ago, I never actually deleted sys1.brodcast. Now, I see master
has it allocated even though there is no SYSLBC dd in MSTJCL00. I guess more
research is needed. I just browsed sys1.brodcast, and see the message I just
sent below.
16174 10:21:25.22 RR008058 00000210 SEND 'A MESSAGE TO ALL TSO USERS',SAVE
16174 10:21:25.24 RR008058 00000000 IKJ578I BROADCAST MSGNO =0001
And then when I logon:
TSS7000I xxxxxxx Last-Used 22 Jun 16 10:21 System=TOL2 Facility=TSO
TSS7001I Count=08962 Mode=Fail Locktime=None Name=DAVE E JOUSMA
IKJ56455I xxxxxxxx LOGON IN PROGRESS AT 10:22:37 ON JUNE 22, 2016
A MESSAGE TO ALL TSO USERS
Fine manual says:
To implement the use of user logs, first copy sample member IKJTSO00 from
SYS1.SAMPLIB to SYS1.PARMLIB, if you have not already done so. You can create
alternative members using the IKJTSOxx naming convention. In IKJTSOxx, modify
the SEND PARMLIB parameter as follows: LOGNAMEuser log data set nameCHKBRODON
My IKJTSO00 says:
SEND /* SEND COMMAND DEFAULTS */ +
OPERSEND(ON) /* */ +
USERSEND(ON) /* */ +
USEBROD(OFF) /* */ +
SAVE(ON) /* */ +
CHKBROD(OFF) /* */ +
SYSPLEXSHR(ON) /* */ +
USERLOGSIZE(5,1) /* */ +
LOGNAME(BRODCAST) /* */
If I do a send 'message',user(myid),save the message is stored in my own
brodcast dataset. If I do a send 'message',save it goes to sys1.brodcast.
The book could be clearer on this. Not sure where to go next,
other than PMR.
_________________________________________________________________
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-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
Of Jesse 1 Robinson
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 10:03 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: SYS1.BRODCAST
So happens when you issue the following MVS command:
SEND 'A message to all TSO users',SAVE
.
.
.
J.O.Skip Robinson
Southern California Edison Company
Electric Dragon Team Paddler
SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager
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-----Original Message-----
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Of Jousma, David
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 6:14 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: (External):Re: SYS1.BRODCAST
We run without. Nothing in MSTJCLxx, just changes to IKJTSOxx to use user
BROADCAST dataset. We use userid.BRODCAST
>From the fine manual:
>https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.1.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r1.ikjb400/conlogs.htm
I don't get any messages at logon time for a missing SYS1.BRODCAST dataset
either.
_________________________________________________________________
Dave Jousma
Manager Mainframe Engineering, Assistant Vice President [email protected]
1830 East Paris, Grand Rapids, MI 49546 MD RSCB2H p 616.653.8429 f 616.653.2717
-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
Of Jesse 1 Robinson
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2016 3:21 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: SYS1.BRODCAST
You also answered a question for me: would this be a good idea in my shop? The
messages about missing SYS1.BRODCAST would generate a flurry of calls to the
help desk, generating a gaggle of problem tickets. For me, not the worth the
cacophony. But thanks for experimenting.
.
.
.
J.O.Skip Robinson
Southern California Edison Company
Electric Dragon Team Paddler
SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager
323-715-0595 Mobile
626-302-7535 Office
[email protected]
-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
Of Staller, Allan
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2016 12:01 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: (External):Re: SYS1.BRODCAST
Answering my own question:
Yes, you can run *WITHOUT* a SYS1.BRODCAST dataset.
You will receive a couple of messages at logon time indicating SYS1.BRODCAST
cannot be allocated.
The logon will proceed and the user BROADCAST dataset will be handled normally.
Thanks to all that responded.
-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
Of Staller, Allan
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2016 10:29 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: SYS1.BRODCAST
I recently converted to TSO/E user logs and IPL'ed.
All is working but I still have an allocation for SYS1.BRODCAST by *MASTER*.
I *DID* check MSTJCL00 and the SYSLBC DD statement is not present.
The only trace I can find of SYS1.BRODCAST is in the GRSRNL list.
RNLDEF RNL(EXCL) TYPE(SPECIFIC) QNAME(SYSDSN) RNAME(SYS1.BRODCAST)
Q. Is anyone out there running *WITHOUT* a SYS1.BRODCAST dataset? If so, what
is necessary to accomplish this?
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